I hope this game is the defining moment when the lights switched on for the entire team. We may not win the B1G reg season or even the B1G tournament, but this team looks capable of making a deep run into the NCAA’s after playing through the toughest conference in America, top to bottom.
I didn't put this in my writeup but if you watch to the end of the video linked at the top, you will see Fran talking about what the Dance Marathon, which began last night, means to him in applauding the effort.
The guy has faults. He drives me crazy when he doesn't use timeouts. But he's a good man.
I'll respectfully disagree. The definition of a good man doesn't mean perfect. None of us are. In this video the ref would have been in his right to punch him in the face and Fran could have been charged with misdemeanor assault in most all state.
I'll use the definition of good man to someone who can get his point across without physical intimidation. Especially over a BB game.
Misdemeanor assault?!? Lol yelling isn't assault.
Uh yeah.Misdemeanor assault?!? Lol yelling isn't assault.
I'll respectfully disagree. The definition of a good man doesn't mean perfect. None of us are. In this video the ref would have been in his right to punch him in the face and Fran could have been charged with misdemeanor assault in most all state.
I'll use the definition of good man to someone who can get his point across without physical intimidation. Especially over a BB game.
You can disagree. I’m confident I know him better than you, someone who watches his sideline demeanor on TV and makes concrete judgements not based on anything else.
Steve Alford was much more calm on the sideline. I can say with utmost confidence that Fran is a better man than Steve.
Again, knowing how Fran gives back to this community, raises his kids well, is a devoted husband, dedicates himself to fighting cancer, etc., I have no hesitation in calling him a good man.
I think you are expecting perfection even though you qualified your previous post saying you weren’t.
You may not like Fran and Kirk as coaches. I’ve criticized both in stories through the years when I’ve disagreed with decisions or felt they’ve underperformed.
They’re both good people. Not perfect, but good.
No, not expecting perfection. You've mentioned your background before. Add violence to it. I'm glad he's cleaned up the demeanor on the bench. Truly am. I can get past imperfections. Coming at someone like that...no. Not a good man. A typical guy trying to get better...ya that I can agree with and admire that. A good man.... I'll let that one pass for now. And I will disagree.
Kirk overall is a pretty darned good coach with control issues. Fran, is an OK coach with ups and downs. I'll leave being a good man to those who don't act like that. It wasn't a one time outburst. That underlying anger is still there. Hope he can control it. If he didn't he would have been on a fast track out.
My main beef with KF (you brought him into it). is when he allowed a wounded CJ to get pummeled by Florida which was another form of abuse. Will never understand that.
Back to FM, Personally having a parent come at me like Fran came at the ref only not having that parent stop.... just too similar. Not normal behavior and shouldn't be tolerated anymore than what MSU tolerated.
Why calling not wanting to see that behavior out of a public figuring is demanding perfection is wrong. One time...OK, but still wrong. This wasn't like him being upset with Dolph. He was out of control angry....over a game. I've gotten past the behavior as he has controlled it at least in public. He has a was to go to earn "good man" status.
If I run into KF someday at Stead with my child, I'll be the first to say thx for his donations and mean it. I had concussions from the abuse. I'll always be skeptical of KF about AR.
Sorry I went down this road with you again. That’s my fault.
I have experienced plenty of violence in my background. Not the point.
The difference is I can separate my experiences, and not be overly judgmental and bias because of them. You tend over-relate your experiences to what you think you know about others when you don’t know them. It’s a perception based on bias and not knowledge.
And now I’m done.
Sorry I went down this road with you again. That’s my fault.
I have experienced plenty of violence in my background. Not the point.
The difference is I can separate my experiences, and not be overly judgmental and bias because of them. You tend over-relate your experiences to what you think you know about others when you don’t know them. It’s a perception based on bias and not knowledge.
And now I’m done.
That was clearly his low water mark as far as his temper is concerned. Even more so than the chair slamming incident at MSU or the scorers table incident where his foot wasn't too far from Hansen's grill (Bobby had his jaw broken in the NBA)I'll respectfully disagree. The definition of a good man doesn't mean perfect. None of us are. In this video the ref would have been in his right to punch him in the face and Fran could have been charged with misdemeanor assault in most all state.
I'll use the definition of good man to someone who can get his point across without physical intimidation. Especially over a BB game.
I'll respectfully disagree. The definition of a good man doesn't mean perfect. None of us are. In this video the ref would have been in his right to punch him in the face and Fran could have been charged with misdemeanor assault in most all state.
I'll use the definition of good man to someone who can get his point across without physical intimidation. Especially over a BB game.