The Barta question re: the Director's Cup

[deanvogs]

I wish Barta was gone as well.

BUT

He raises money. He has the revenue stream absolutely flowing. And everything comes down to money. And Barta brings in the money.

That law suit is drop in the buck compared tot he money Barta has overseen the department generating.

Many people can raise money for the UofI, as there is tons of fan support, that actually makes raising money easier at Iowa than many places. There are tons of qualified people who could be more successful than Barta at Iowa.

 

[lightning1]

Gary Barta may stink at his job but don't throw that bull crap CIVIL lawsuit into the evaluation. That's a total and complete joke with a judgement from a minor league court system. He may not have documented the poor performance but even if he did there's so little burden of proof if any required in a civil suit that a peer jury could have decided against U of IA regardless. The fact is if the same thing happened and it does to a 'non-protected' class worker there would be no recourse. How do the rest of us get 'protected' status?

Upset about results and prices I get that but not the other. I still don't give a rip about the 'Directors Cup'... sorry.

Minor league court system? Protected class? Just STFU already.

 

[lightning1]

Other than that, you like Barta though?

No. He's a lying idiot as well.

 

[SpecialKHawk]

Minor league court system? Protected class? Just STFU already.

Translation ... there was nothing to dispute

 

[SpecialKHawk]

I haven't been "hood winked" by anyone. I am the last person to bow down to Political correctness. I could really give a rip less about that stuff.

What I do know is it took Barta far too long to clear out the "old guard" that held Iowa back for a long time in the Athletic department. Meyer was the last of the old guard, and she took him to the freaking wood shed. When your employees run all over you, and can navigate the office better than the boss can, that is incompetence at the top.

This is my opinion from running a business for 2 decades, dealing with employees, and cities and changes in the laws and how things are done. If you don't share it, that is fine, we are all free to our opinions. Just don't mistake a difference in opinion as having been "fooled" or "tricked" into thinking that way.

All you have done is tell me how society works which I said was a sham. When at-will employment applies to only 'un-protected' workers then there's a problem. If Meyer had been a white heterosexual male in the exact same situation there would be no recourse and no cheesy civil suit victory. Sham.

Is Barta incompetent? Maybe, probably but I'm not using a sham situation against him is what i have said.

 

[lightning1]

Translation ... there was nothing to dispute

Translation.....you're a moron.

 

[trj]

The directors cup is something Iowa State brags about because they have a shitty football program.

That will be one of their calling cards when the Big 12 dissolves in 6 or 7 years. Lol, "look at how good we are at every other sport except football ". Yep. That will get them in PAC-12.

 

[deanvogs]

All you have done is tell me how society works which I said was a sham. When at-will employment applies to only 'un-protected' workers then there's a problem. If Meyer had been a white heterosexual male in the exact same situation there would be no recourse and no cheesy civil suit victory. Sham.

Is Barta incompetent? Maybe, probably but I'm not using a sham situation against him is what i have said.

Gary Barta got to sit in front a court and make his case, that he fired Meyer because she was a shitty ass employee. He got his ass handed to him on a plate. He couldn't make that case, because he was incompetent as an employer. That isn't my opinion, that is the opinion of 8 jurors. I have been an employer, and I can tell you for a fact, that it takes one shitty ass employer to be put into a position where you have no notes, no documentation about an employee that would give you justification to fire them.

The people who got to hear Barta's side, and hear Meyer's side said that Barta is a tool. That is a fact, and the only "sham" here is you trying to pretend the verdict was different. If Barta was a squeaky clean as you say, it is EVEN A BIGGER FAIL THAT THE FOOL COULDN"T MAKE HIS CASE.

 

[tksirius]

Gary Barta got to sit in front a court and make his case, that he fired Meyer because she was a shitty ass employee. He got his ass handed to him on a plate. He couldn't make that case, because he was incompetent as an employer. That isn't my opinion, that is the opinion of 8 jurors. I have been an employer, and I can tell you for a fact, that it takes one shitty ass employer to be put into a position where you have no notes, no documentation about an employee that would give you justification to fire them.

The people who got to hear Barta's side, and hear Meyer's side said that Barta is a tool. That is a fact, and the only "sham" here is you trying to pretend the verdict was different. If Barta was a squeaky clean as you say, it is EVEN A BIGGER FAIL THAT THE FOOL COULDN"T MAKE HIS CASE.

I agree with what you're saying, but one thing I'm sure of is even if Barta had all the proper documentation, there would still have been some jurors that would have been against him (for the plaintiff). Really doesn't matter though; as you say, Barta is a tool. I do wonder if he is documenting things, now... I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't lol.

 

[The Big LeHAWKski]

I don't really worry about the dollar cost of letting Barta go. When the head man creates a fiasco like Barta did, they need to be shown the door.

When $$Millions$$ of University dollars are paid out as a result of either someone's incompetence or their poor decision making - either way there must be consequences.
This isn't Washington DC after all. I say Barta has to go, time for a somewhat clean slate.

 

[Seth53]

I wish Barta was gone as well.

BUT

He raises money. He has the revenue stream absolutely flowing. And everything comes down to money. And Barta brings in the money.

That law suit is drop in the buck compared tot he money Barta has overseen the department generating.

^^This^^

This and only this matters to any major university sports program.

Granted, having a winning FB and men's BB program sets/keeps the above into/in motion. And sustains the open spigots.

But Iowa is a unique venue....the fan base for the most part keeps giving at an elevated level regardless of the records (OK, maybe not during Lickliter's mess).

IMO, Barta doesn't have to produce champions to keep the money flowing, merely a competitive product, which he has. His record thus far supports that theory. What he *does* need to do is keep being Delaney's biggest drum beater.

The Director's Cup is a hack award, not dissimilar to the made-up trophies the B1G has invented. It matters not.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

^^This^^

This and only this matters to any major university sports program.

Granted, having a winning FB and men's BB program sets/keeps the above into/in motion. And sustains the open spigots.

But Iowa is a unique venue....the fan base for the most part keeps giving at an elevated level regardless of the records (OK, maybe not during Lickliter's mess).

IMO, Barta doesn't have to produce champions to keep the money flowing, merely a competitive product, which he has. His record thus far supports that theory. What he *does* need to do is keep being Delaney's biggest drum beater.

The Director's Cup is a hack award, not dissimilar to the made-up trophies the B1G has invented. It matters not.

You mean, like, "The Seth 53-HawkeyeBob62 Hardest Working Senior Special Teamer Who Never Saw a Single Play From Scrimmage Player of the Year" award?