The B1G needs to END Bowl jumping rules

BSpringsteen

BSpringsteen

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A bowl game should be a reward for a good season.

How can it be a good reward if a team you beat, are better than gets the game instead of you?

This is beyond moronic.

The Outback Bowl should go to the third place team, not be given the third pick.

We've benefitted from this more often than not, but I still think this is moronic and needs to be stopped.
 
The bowls do not care about anything more than what team will bring them and their host city the most money. They are not even shy about admitting that fact. The bowls are money makers, pure and simple. They have never claimed to be a fair reward for a team's good season. Money talks, fairness walks. Them's the brakes. It is never going to change.
 
I agree with the OP but I doubt will never change. I know teams that do not travel well like Northwestern & MSU have been shafted before by the bowls. A conference like the B1G may have enough clout to pull something like this off. But lately I've seen the B1G back off having rules like this so perhaps it affects the bowls willing to tie themselves to the conference. Before they used to have a rule where a 7 win team could not get selected before a 9 win team (or 8 over a 6). But I think that rule is gone now.
 
BSpringsteen said:
A bowl game should be a reward for a good season.

How can it be a good reward if a team you beat, are better than gets the game instead of you?

This is beyond moronic.

The Outback Bowl should go to the third place team, not be given the third pick.

We've benefitted from this more often than not, but I still think this is moronic and needs to be stopped.
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Bowls are out to make money, plain and simple. And this argument coming from you doesnt surprise me. You wouldnt want anything to benefit KF and the staff, not even a better bowl game.....hater
 
Section136 said:
Bowls are out to make money, plain and simple. And this argument coming from you doesnt surprise me. You wouldnt want anything to benefit KF and the staff, not even a better bowl game.....hater
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But now with Nebraska in the conference Iowa may not benefit from this as much as years past. For example Iowa could beat Nebraska this year and the Outback may still take Nebraska. They travel well, have awesome ratings, and it is their first chance to take Nebraska as a member of the Big Ten.
 
ssckelley said:
But now with Nebraska in the conference Iowa may not benefit from this as much as years past. For example Iowa could beat Nebraska this year and the Outback may still take Nebraska. They travel well, have awesome ratings, and it is their first chance to take Nebraska as a member of the Big Ten.
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But this rule has benefitted Iowa many more times than it has hurt them. I cant think of a time it has hurt the Hawks. That was my point, but I do understand yours.
 
the bowls are not put on by the NCAA. they are not rewarding performance. the NCAA has done their part by requiring that teams cannot have losing records.
 
Bowl games are just an end of season exhibition game.

Most bowl games are virtually meaningless outside of the two schools traveling. It is an old system that I wish would change.
 
TritonHawkeye said:
Bowl games are just an end of season exhibition game.

Most bowl games are virtually meaningless outside of the two schools traveling. It is an old system that I wish would change.
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Bowl games often are not a showing of who the better team is, but rather which team is or is not motivated to play.

This is where Kirk makes his money. With the exception of 2003 Orange Bowl & the 2006 Outback bowl, Kirk has had the Hawkeyes ready to go.
 
Since we usually benefit from the current arrangement, I support it.

Rational self-interest. Plus, screw those other teams. If they want better bowls, then get better fans.

Bowl games are for all intents meaningless exhibitions. But they do make for a fun road trip.
 
If the bowls were run by the conference or NCAA, I would agree with you. Instead, they are run by communities that want to A) make money, B) create PR for their community. We also might like to have C) create the most compelling match-up, but that is clearly third on the list.

In order to achieve A and B, they need relationships with the conferences that provide them the best chance to meet these objectives. Hence, the major conferences have the most agreements.

Now, conferences and schools agree to these agreements so that they can make some extra scratch and reward their players for a good season. But they are not going to be too concerned whether that reward is a trip to Tampa, Jacksonville, Dallas, or Tempe.
 
The bowls are a two-party business relationship (as between the bowl and the B1G). Sometimes you have to compromise in business relationships to make them work.

The top-tier B1G tie-in bowls would not be willing to payout as much if they were to be required to take the teams in order of finish. Allowing the bowl jumping makes the relationship more valuable to the bowls, which results in increased compensation to the B1G.

In a perfect world, I would join you, but in our world, I will take the deal that results in the B1G benefiting the most.
 
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