That's it ... I'm crying uncle

JHHawk said:
So, what is the tempature of the UCLA fans right now about Mora? I know they slipped by Texas by 3 pts, and Memphis by 7 and Va. by 8 pts, but wasn't this UCLA team supposed to be a juggernaut? Pac 12 is tough, so they might end up with a worse record than iowa, but hey, free country....enjoy the cheerleaders!
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Oh, and then there is this:


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Expect HN to be crashing on your couch when Iowa goes to the Rose Bowl this year. :) Do we need to bring our own pillows/blankets?
 
Eda said:
Expect HN to be crashing on your couch when Iowa goes to the Rose Bowl this year. :) Do we need to bring our own pillows/blankets?
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Eda, I will happily house the miscreants from HN if hell freezes over like that. Who is going to entertain my wife?
 
ThunderHawk said:
Congrats on your daughter getting into UCLA. That's no small feat.
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Huh? You do know that UCLA is a public university like Iowa, Iowa State and UNI? (It's USC that's the private university.) And traditionally it's been the private universities that are more selective.
 
socalhawkeye198 said:
I think the fans are pretty high on Mora. In two years, he has changed the culture of the program, recruited well, energized the fan base, spearheaded fund raising for new facilities, and done about everything you can ask of a coach. You can tell that he plays to win. If somebody throws an interception, so be it, but they're going to take their shots. But you're right, this year they have not overwhelmed anybody. In game 1 they scored three defensive touchdowns and beat UVA by 7. The offensive line sucked and it was ugly. In game 2, the offense looked solid but the defense couldn't stop Memphis. Game 3, Hundley got hurt, and UCLA survived against a motivated and angry Texas in Arlington. I think that was probably a huge learning experience for them.

Hundley, by the way, is really, really good. He's like Terrelle Pryor, but a much better passer. My Hawk season ticket holder buddy from Johnston, IA is coming out to go to the UCLA-Oregon game with me, and I'm excited to watch good football with another Hawk.
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My cousin's son is the starting center. Jake is very happy with his choice of UCLA. One of the reasons they are struggling a bit this year is the O-line lost a really good one in Xavier Su'a-Filo, who is starting for the Texans.

My brother, my son and I plan on going to the UCLA at Colorado game and meet up with my cousin there; I'm not wearing black and gold that day!
 
socalhawkeye198 said:
I'm inviting you all to bash the bejeezus out of me. So here goes ...

I love the Hawkeyes. I love Iowa City. I loved my time there. I graduated in the mid 1980s, and made my best friends in life there. I have made it a point to come back to Iowa City every other year or so from Southern California to go to at least one game. I traveled across the country to the Outback Bowl last year. I'll always love the Hawks and I will always be thrilled when they pull out a victory...

...I'll never have the same love for UCLA that I have for Iowa, but the time has come to at least look forward to watching entertaining football where the team I'm watching is playing to win, rather than playing not to lose. So go ahead, call me a traitorous rat. I surrender.
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Enjoy... When there was no time conflict, or the years the Hawks were non-existent, I went to many CU and Air Force games when I lived in Colorado, and U of Miami games when I lived in South Fla ...there is much more exciting football out there...much more! Your allegiance will always be to the Hawks (I never followed those others closely once I moved away, and those programs all eventually drifted...) AND you will always check in to see how the Hawks are doing. You will always watch the first Hawk game of the season (live or dvr) to see if there's been any changes or something new to get excited about. You will still travel to a game or bowl game if it is close or convenient. You too will clamor for bowl tickets IF we ever make it back to consistent Top Ten status and a BIG TIME game (dare we even dream anymore of a Rose Bowl or NCG). It's a time investment, in addition to a financial one...You are a Hawk, and "Once a Hawkeye..."

In time you may drift back to sole Iowa allegiance, but in the meantime you will discover there are more exciting teams, conferences, AND COACHES. Iowa City has some traditions that many places don't have or can't capture. The "gameday" experience in Iowa City (as a Hawk Fan), is like NO other. Who knows, it may disappear or lose its luster...gone by the same way of the keg, botabag, Magicbus, or more importantly, just the PARKING LOT(s) themselves! The program in IC has become drab and predictable, and as such, the students too are finding other things to do on Saturdays. Can anyone blame them? Can anyone blame you?

Recruiting apparently has nothing to do with dollars, or we would have all the top guys in the country since we are consistently a top 20 team in $. Paying a coach a huge salary (and I'm not a KF apologist, nor a large salary hater) doesn't produce top 10 results either. People want exciting football teams to support, a coach that when not winning can at least be semi-transparent, and not insulting to the fanbase with their "coach-speak" canned answers. There are a lot of coaches that can graduate student athletes or put guys in the NFL, or provide the alumni base with a reason to donate. KF might be a very good coach, developer of talent, competitive, and we know he is a very good person, but he and our program are stale and it is time to either move them forward/onward or find a new direction...and soon.

It's disappointing to see friends, alumni, and fellow Hawk fans doing something on Saturdays besides watching or listening to THE IOWA GAME. To be calling or texting another friend for the score or "an update". There's been more and more each year (at least with my fellow Hawk friends)...but come on, can we really blame them...our product is not "MUST SEE TV"!

Knight and Socal, you are not alone...be free to re-discover an exciting world of college football...Just don't let that UCLA "fever" carryover to basketball and Alford, "your" coach!
 
Winning is everything,...so clearly, after SA and the Bruins won the Pac 12 tourney title, he must be supported and cheered, unlike KF, altho he is a better person, he is not winning quite enough to deserve support. SA? Yes. KF? No. That is the new mantra. Cheat, steal, and plunder, but just win...it is everything.
 
socalhawkeye198 said:
I'm inviting you all to bash the bejeezus out of me. So here goes ...

I love the Hawkeyes. I love Iowa City. I loved my time there. I graduated in the mid 1980s, and made my best friends in life there. I have made it a point to come back to Iowa City every other year or so from Southern California to go to at least one game. I traveled across the country to the Outback Bowl last year. I'll always love the Hawks and I will always be thrilled when they pull out a victory.

But I'm not going to do it to myself anymore. I'm not going to slavishly watch them do the same thing week after week, keeping it close with whatever pansy opponent they face, caring more about winning the turnover battles more than winning the game. I only have so much time to give to football.

My daughter is going to UCLA this year. I was at the 1986 Rose Bowl -- when Iowa lost to UCLA and Ronnie Harmon cashed in. I would never have believed it then ... but I am now a UCLA season ticket holder.

I'll never have the same love for UCLA that I have for Iowa, but the time has come to at least look forward to watching entertaining football where the team I'm watching is playing to win, rather than playing not to lose. So go ahead, call me a traitorous rat. I surrender.
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Not a traitorous rat at all, socalhawkeye. your attitude and that of others is perfectly understandable.....

Always wondered about Ronnie Harmon's fumbles.....

Really like the thread title....

:rolleyes:
 
ColoradoHAWKEYE said:
Enjoy... When there was no time conflict, or the years the Hawks were non-existent, I went to many CU and Air Force games when I lived in Colorado, and U of Miami games when I lived in South Fla ...there is much more exciting football out there...much more! Your allegiance will always be to the Hawks (I never followed those others closely once I moved away, and those programs all eventually drifted...) AND you will always check in to see how the Hawks are doing. You will always watch the first Hawk game of the season (live or dvr) to see if there's been any changes or something new to get excited about. You will still travel to a game or bowl game if it is close or convenient. You too will clamor for bowl tickets IF we ever make it back to consistent Top Ten status and a BIG TIME game (dare we even dream anymore of a Rose Bowl or NCG). It's a time investment, in addition to a financial one...You are a Hawk, and "Once a Hawkeye..."

In time you may drift back to sole Iowa allegiance, but in the meantime you will discover there are more exciting teams, conferences, AND COACHES. Iowa City has some traditions that many places don't have or can't capture. The "gameday" experience in Iowa City (as a Hawk Fan), is like NO other. Who knows, it may disappear or lose its luster...gone by the same way of the keg, botabag, Magicbus, or more importantly, just the PARKING LOT(s) themselves! The program in IC has become drab and predictable, and as such, the students too are finding other things to do on Saturdays. Can anyone blame them? Can anyone blame you?

Recruiting apparently has nothing to do with dollars, or we would have all the top guys in the country since we are consistently a top 20 team in $. Paying a coach a huge salary (and I'm not a KF apologist, nor a large salary hater) doesn't produce top 10 results either. People want exciting football teams to support, a coach that when not winning can at least be semi-transparent, and not insulting to the fanbase with their "coach-speak" canned answers. There are a lot of coaches that can graduate student athletes or put guys in the NFL, or provide the alumni base with a reason to donate. KF might be a very good coach, developer of talent, competitive, and we know he is a very good person, but he and our program are stale and it is time to either move them forward/onward or find a new direction...and soon.

It's disappointing to see friends, alumni, and fellow Hawk fans doing something on Saturdays besides watching or listening to THE IOWA GAME. To be calling or texting another friend for the score or "an update". There's been more and more each year (at least with my fellow Hawk friends)...but come on, can we really blame them...our product is not "MUST SEE TV"!

Knight and Socal, you are not alone...be free to re-discover an exciting world of college football...Just don't let that UCLA "fever" carryover to basketball and Alford, "your" coach!
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Very well said, Colorado.....

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STILLBUSTER said:
Ok - YOU'RE A TRAITOROUS RAT!

Go ahead and turn on KirkFer and abandon the Hawks during one of their times of need for that Pac-12 fluffy sizzle. Good luck getting that one past the Pearly Gates. Hey, it's your soul, man but don't come 'round here beggin' to get ur seat back on the wagon once KirkFer and that G.d. "offensive" coordinator overcome "the challenges of trying to put things together". It'll happen, you'll see. Right about the time your daughter graduates from UCLA you'll be lookin' to the East and wonderin', "What's that there, up in the sky? Is it Superman?" NO, it's Greg Davis riding a black-n-gold Hawk on a 200 mph dive honed in on sinking its talons right into your treacherous, powder blue heart.
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Most Excellent, stillbuster, most excellent indeed.....

http://youtu.be/q3fx6TugN7g

:cool:
 
ColoradoHAWKEYE said:
Thanks mi amigo...hope all is well...Mummies tomorrow night in Osceola? (after Hawk win) :D
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Very kind of you, Colorado, sounds like a nice way to celebrate the Hawkeye win tomorrow. Still have to see the Mummies. Almost went to the fair to see them, but family matters popped up.....

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