that didn't last long before wolves would start howling.

not sure what people expect 4 Freshman playing 2 Sophs and 3 JR'S and just 1 SR. none of these were one and done players, and as I have been told over and over it takes a 7' player at least a year to get used to the play at this level,
Zeller and a few like him are few and far between. to expect this team to just roll over anybody they play is plain nonsense, there were to be bumps expected along the way this year
WSU is a very good team and got a boost from having a SR PG playing against a pair of freshmen
VT is another team that had a SR pg and the teams leading scorer playing against a pair of freshmen
not to mention 3 of the SOPHS are from Hargrave Military Academy prep school. so its not like they are young puppies, the roster may only have 8 scholarship players its not like they lack talent.
there been a few years where Iwish Iowa could get a player from Hargrave.
I went with 10-3 in the OOC part of the season it looks like it might just happen, but sweep UNI & ISU and they could still go 11-2 a 3 game in OOC play improvement over last year
PSU and Nebraska both look beatable on the road, sweep those 2 and maintain HC advatage and 10-8 look very real, they can still end up 20-11 or 21-10 on the season and be in the dance.
these players are still learning their roles and responibilities,
Marble just has to realze he is the go to guy and not a role player. Gesell just needs to play the point rather than be the leading scorer every night out, Woodbury needs to get stronger with the ball by taking it to the hoop rather than the lazy tip ins. this is where McCabe needs to do the same by becoming another Gery Wright. if you can get within a couple feet of the Basket slam it home rather than lazy layups, White got this by slamming the ball every chance he gets rather than being lazy with the ball and having it swatted away,, this all takes time to learn
 
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redhawk55 said:
not sure what people expect 4 Freshman playing 2 Sophs and 3 JR'S and just 1 SR. none of these were one and done players, and as I have been told over and over it takes a 7' player at least a year to get used to the play at this level,
Zeller and a few like him are few and far between. to expect this team to just roll over anybody they play is plain nonsense, there were to be bumps expected along the way this year
WSU is a very good team and got a boost from having a SR PG playing against a pair of freshmen
VT is another team that had a SR pg and the teams leading scorer playing against a pair of freshmen
not to mention 3 of the SOPHS are from Hargrave Military Academy prep school. so its not like they are young puppies, the roster may only have 8 scholarship players its not like they lack talent.
there been a few years where Iwish Iowa could get a player from Hargrave.
I went with 10-3 in the OOC part of the season it looks like it might just happen, but sweep UNI & ISU and they could still go 11-2 a 3 game in OOC play improvement over last year
PSU and Nebraska both look beatable on the road, sweep those 2 and maintain HC advatage and 10-8 look very real, they can still end up 20-11 or 21-10 on the season and be in the dance.
these players are still learning their roles and responibilities,
Marble just has to realze he is the go to guy and not a role player. Gesell just needs to play the point rather than be the leading scorer every night out, Woodbury needs to get stronger with the ball by taking it to the hoop rather than the lazy tip ins. this is where McCabe needs to do the same by becoming another Gery Wright. if you can get within a couple feet of the Basket slam it home rather than lazy layups, White got this by slamming the ball every chance he gets rather than being lazy with the ball and having it swatted away,, this all takes time to learn
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redhawk55 said:
not sure what people expect 4 Freshman playing 2 Sophs and 3 JR'S and just 1 SR. none of these were one and done players, and as I have been told over and over it takes a 7' player at least a year to get used to the play at this level,Zeller and a few like him are few and far between.


Agree with what you said above about the talent......

hoop rather than the lazy tip ins. this is where McCabe needs to do the same by becoming another Gery Wright. if you can get within a couple feet of the Basket slam it home rather than lazy layups, White got this by slamming the ball every chance he gets rather than being lazy with the ball and having it swatted away,, this all takes time to learn
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McCabe dunking the ball in traffic? He will NEVER do this he can't jump that well. He is a below the rim player and will NEVER learn to be an above the rim player because he is not atletic enough to be an above the rim player. Hence he is more effective away from the basket shooting jump shots.
 
redhawk55 said:
not sure what people expect 4 Freshman playing 2 Sophs and 3 JR'S and just 1 SR. none of these were one and done players, and as I have been told over and over it takes a 7' player at least a year to get used to the play at this level,
Zeller and a few like him are few and far between. to expect this team to just roll over anybody they play is plain nonsense, there were to be bumps expected along the way this year
WSU is a very good team and got a boost from having a SR PG playing against a pair of freshmen
VT is another team that had a SR pg and the teams leading scorer playing against a pair of freshmen
not to mention 3 of the SOPHS are from Hargrave Military Academy prep school. so its not like they are young puppies, the roster may only have 8 scholarship players its not like they lack talent.
there been a few years where Iwish Iowa could get a player from Hargrave.
I went with 10-3 in the OOC part of the season it looks like it might just happen, but sweep UNI & ISU and they could still go 11-2 a 3 game in OOC play improvement over last year
PSU and Nebraska both look beatable on the road, sweep those 2 and maintain HC advatage and 10-8 look very real, they can still end up 20-11 or 21-10 on the season and be in the dance.
these players are still learning their roles and responibilities,
Marble just has to realze he is the go to guy and not a role player. Gesell just needs to play the point rather than be the leading scorer every night out, Woodbury needs to get stronger with the ball by taking it to the hoop rather than the lazy tip ins. this is where McCabe needs to do the same by becoming another Gery Wright. if you can get within a couple feet of the Basket slam it home rather than lazy layups, White got this by slamming the ball every chance he gets rather than being lazy with the ball and having it swatted away,, this all takes time to learn
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OMG.. Try using paragraphs. I'm not even going to try to read that mess.

I will otherwise say that I think concerns over the defense are valid.. The team got torched by Oregon in the NIT last year, and this year, the defense doesn't looked markedly improved. Hopefully that will change throughout the season, but at this point, strong defense isn't what we've been getting 2+ years into Fran's tenure. The offense seems able to put points on the board at least.

I'm not throwing Fran under the bus yet and am willing to wait this out a couple more years beyond this one to see how it goes.
 
tm3308 said:
Let's be fair here. The defense sucked last year, too. And the year before that. Concern that the defense will continue to suck is a valid one, IMO. We've seen absolutely nothing to suggest that it will be a solid defensive unit this year, and Fran has yet to have a solid defensive team at Iowa.
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I agree that our defense was not good against VT. However, Fran made a good point in the post-game. VT made a lot of transition baskets after turnovers and missed 3 pointers. He said we settled for too many 3 point shots even though some of them were good, open 3's to take. He said we had success taking the ball to the basket and either getting fouled or getting easier baskets. We went away from that and it impacted our defense.

I looked at the first 7 games of last year (4-3) and we gave up an average of 69.86 PPG. Through 7 games this year, we have given up 61.86 PPG. That is a noticeable improvement. I didn't compare the records of our oponents but we played Creighton and Clemson in those first 7 games last year along with the typical 5 teams we should beat. Creighton last year was better than WSU this year but I would say VT this year is better than Clemson last year simply because it was a road game this year.

North Carolina A&T, Creighton, Campbell, IPFW and Clemson all scored 70+ against us in the first 7 games last season. The most points we gave up in the first 7 games last season was 82 to Creighton. The least was 53 to Chicago State.

This year, only WSU and VT have scored more than 70 points against us. We have held 4 opponents under 60 points. The most points we have given up so far is 95 to VT on the road and the fewest points is 36 to Howard.

Again, our D in the last two games was not good but I think we need to see if that is a trend or just an anomaly. Through 7 games, I think we can say we have improved defensively over last year with more room for improvement.

Go Hawks!
 
to those that can't or won't read are afraid of what they might learn, the lines are put out there to avoid run on sentences. if you don't want to read it fine but keep your comments to yourself.
many others don't have a problem with my posts
 
redhawk55 said:
to those that can't or won't read are afraid of what they might learn, the lines are put out there to avoid run on sentences. if you don't want to read it fine but keep your comments to yourself.
many others don't have a problem with my posts
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You know, there's another way to avoid run-on sentences, without using crazy formatting.

Just don't write run-on sentences. Splitting a sentence in the middle and starting a new line mid-sentence doesn't change whether or not it's a run-on.
 
I, the all-powerful Galactic Emperor, will attempt to edit my apprentice's post for readability...

redhawk55 said:
I'm not sure what people expect. We have four freshman, two sophomores, three juniors, and just one senior playing. None of these are one and done players, and as I have been told over and over, it takes a 7' player at least a year to get used to the play at this level.

Zeller, and a few like him, are few and far between. To expect this team to just roll over anybody they play is plain nonsense. Bumps were to be expected along the way this year.

WSU is a very good team, and they got a boost from having a senior point guard playing against a pair of freshmen.

VT is another team that had a senior point guard (who was the teams leading scorer) playing against a pair of freshmen. Not to mention that 3 of the VT sophomores are from Hargrave Military Academy prep school, so its not like they are young puppies. The roster may only have 8 scholarship players. Its not like they lack talent. There been a few years where I wish Iowa could get a player from Hargrave.

I went with 10-3 in the OOC part of the season. It looks like it might just happen. But if we sweep UNI & ISU, they could still go 11-2 a 3 game in OOC play, which would be an improvement over last year.

PSU and Nebraska both look beatable on the road. If we sweep those 2 and maintain home court advantage, then 10-8 looks very real. They can still end up 20-11 or 21-10 on the season and be in the dance.

These players are still learning their roles and responsibilities:

Marble just has to realize he is the go-to guy and not a role player.

Gesell just needs to play the point rather than be the leading scorer every night out.

Woodbury needs to get stronger with the ball by taking it to the hoop, rather than the lazy tip-ins.

This is where McCabe needs to do the same by becoming another Gery Wright. If you can get within a couple feet of the basket, slam it home rather than lazy layups.

White got this by slamming the ball every chance he got, rather than being lazy with the ball and having it swatted away. This all takes time to learn
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You know, it's actually not bed, red.
 
Herby, you need to stop using how many Freshman and Sophomores are playing on this team. It seems like people have been saying that about Iowa for 5 years now. Iowa is not the only team using underclassmen to win games. I have seen teams win national championships with underclassmen, it can be done.
 
ssckelley said:
He chased them all away. The basketball section of Scout was turning into the BlackTarn blog and no one dared to disagree with him.
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So basically what is happening here (minus the no one disagreeing with him)? Seriously, barely over a month on here and already 500 posts of the same sh*t. Beyond old. Would be nice to enjoy the season and board without that jobber.
 
There is no way he will chase the core group away over here. Most of us are JDM groupies so that will keep the activity over here fresh.

Besides he pollutes about every Hawkeye forum that is out there. The handful that are left at Scout actually like the guy.
 
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