Supreme Court to take up case on paying college athletes

[Fryowa]

Nah, the current athletes are totally dispensable. They turn over every 4 years. The value is in the stadium, the logo and decades of goodwill.

IMHO, the biggest advancement the NCAA made was establishing at least a modicum of relative parity. Iowa State has taken down UT and OU. Iowa is better than Nebraska. Iowa at least would have a fighting chance against OSU and beat them by 31 the last time they met.

That parity led to a massive spike in interest of college football and drove monstrous revenue gains for the entire system through media deals and insane ticket/donation prices even at middling schools. I'm totally opposed to the draconian rules they've put on college athletes, but at the same time, I completely understand that without some sort of limits on that we're basically going to send the whole system back into the dark era where there are effectively no scholarship limits (the boosters can just pay tuition along with the grease) and guys like Ricky Stanzi or DJK will find themselves stockpiled on OSU's enormous roster.

It will be interesting for sure.

I've thought a lot about talent distribution under a salaried/sponsored athlete system, and I'm not totally convinced that the blue bloods will stockpile. At the end of the day there's a finite amount of playing time, and guys will go where they think they can get on the field.

The NCAA should have seen the writing on the wall and acquiesced before this thing got a head of steam. They should have settled on a standard amount to pay athletes based on the average program revenue across the P5 conferences (OSU football players get paid the same as Kansas and Arizona), allowed autograph and likeness income, and divvied a portion of merch revenue. Along with tuition that would've been pretty fair. It would also force schools to do what they should have done decades ago, make non-revenue sports club level. Pool jumping, shuffleboard, boat races, chick basketball, and somersaulting can eff off. If you can't sell enough tickets and t-shirts to pay for your sport you shouldn't be playing it. Don't come crying to Kurt and Phran for money so you can buy new badminton raquets.

But they refused to move even an inch and now they're gonna pay the price big time. Those lawmakers and judges aren't sports fans and they don't understand, nor care what it'll do to college FB and BB. They just see a bunch of kids gettin held down by the man and now they're gonna let 'em stick it to the man.

Emmert should be flying a cargo plane fulla rubber dogshit outta Hong Kong by now.

 

[Ree4]

It will be interesting for sure.

I've thought a lot about talent distribution under a salaried/sponsored athlete system, and I'm not totally convinced that the blue bloods will stockpile. At the end of the day there's a finite amount of playing time, and guys will go where they think they can get on the field.

The NCAA should have seen the writing on the wall and acquiesced before this thing got a head of steam. They should have settled on a standard amount to pay athletes based on the average program revenue across the P5 conferences (OSU football players get paid the same as Kansas and Arizona), allowed autograph and likeness income, and divvied a portion of merch revenue. Along with tuition that would've been pretty fair. It would also force schools to do what they should have done decades ago, make non-revenue sports club level. Pool jumping, shuffleboard, boat races, chick basketball, and somersaulting can eff off. If you can't sell enough tickets and t-shirts to pay for your sport you shouldn't be playing it. Don't come crying to Kurt and Phran for money so you can buy new badminton raquets.

But they refused to move even an inch and now they're gonna pay the price big time. Those lawmakers and judges aren't sports fans and they don't understand, nor care what it'll do to college FB and BB. They just see a bunch of kids gettin held down by the man and now they're gonna let 'em stick it to the man.

Emmert should be flying a cargo plane fulla rubber dogshit outta Hong Kong by now.

Also assuming things are done above board (probably a bad assumption) players on the same team would be competing against each other in terms of jersey sales etc with the NIL model

 

[Fryowa]

Also assuming things are done above board (probably a bad assumption) players on the same team would be competing against each other in terms of jersey sales etc with the NIL model

Yeah you’d have to divvy that out equally which I mentioned the NCAA could’ve done years ago, but now that’s off the table.

 

[Motigerhawk]

You guys must have missed the post about the Bill of Rights. One of them is sharing 50% of athletic department revenue with athletes.

That will change college athletics forever.

 

[VTHawk]

However this thing ends up, there’s no debating that the NCAA made the bed it has to lay in now.

Mark Emmertt is EASILY top 5 hugest slime balls in all of sports. He made $2.7 million dollars in salary last year strictly because there are kids willing to play sports, but has the balls to go on 60 Minutes and tell everyone how the NCAA is non-profit, and how their main concern is the sanctity of amateurism. And then he still has the balls to ban a kid who had a YouTube channel and made a couple bucks. And a thousand other hypocritical situations.

You guys who don’t want players to get paid better not participate in the huge machine that is college football/basketball or you’re just as big a hypocrite.

At one point the NCAA had the ability to make a compromise of sorts and it would have been able to find a middle ground. There was a time when student athletes just wanted to be able to make money on their own likenesses or on their own talent by selling some autographs or maybe doing some commercials. But was there even an inch of compromise? Nope. None.

So should the student athletes be willing to compromise with the NCAA now that they have the de facto upper hand? I’m not one of them so I can’t speak for them, but as an outsider I’d say no way.

Emmert, your chickens have come home to roost, you slimy mofo. I’m gonna laugh all the way to StubHub next year when I’m paying ridiculous prices for seats in Kinnick. Amateurism is dead, and ironically your stupid fucking logic is what drove the last nail in the coffin.

And I love it.

Well I am not so sure about making money on likeness and doing commercials. This is what pro sports do and I don't want to see College Ball turn into something like the pros. Besides I also think that having players doing commercial will further unbalance recruiting nationwide. Not so sure that would be a good thing for college sports.

I am in favor of the NCAA along with the school the kid is going to, giving a serious stipend to kids in college sports. Perhaps something like twenty thousand dollars to each scholarship kid.

Not sure what to do with small non profitable college athletic teams though.

 

[Fryowa]

Well I am not so sure about making money on likeness and doing commercials. This is what pro sports do and I don't want to see College Ball turn into something like the pros. Besides I also think that having players doing commercial will further unbalance recruiting nationwide. Not so sure that would be a good thing for college sports.

I am in favor of the NCAA along with the school the kid is going to, giving a serious stipend to kids in college sports. Perhaps something like twenty thousand dollars to each scholarship kid.

Not sure what to do with small non profitable college athletic teams though.

Too late for that. The NCAA’s chance for a compromise ended a long time ago. This lawsuit is going to turn it into the wild west