tksirius
HN's Love Doctor
I think he actually just meant that it isn't PC to kick someone when they're down or the whole 50 point rule type of thing. I could be wrong.
Stanford just showed Brian how he can be different
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judzeehawk
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Can you say.....................Cupcake! Stanford gulped that one down in one bite!
TulipCityHawk
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"I remember KF putting in Sokol(?) for a few plays and all he did was hand off the ball to a RB who ran straight into the line. Nothing positive was gained from that experience. In fact I would argue it was demoralizing for everyone involved. Guys who patiently sat on the bench waiting for their chance were ordered to NOT show what they could do."
Well said by JoshBrown. Demoralizing is a great word. I think there is a fine line between a starter chucking downfield to pad stats with a few minutes left (which is done a lot at other places, unfortunately) and backups preparing for when their number is called.
Well said by JoshBrown. Demoralizing is a great word. I think there is a fine line between a starter chucking downfield to pad stats with a few minutes left (which is done a lot at other places, unfortunately) and backups preparing for when their number is called.
IndianaHawk
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I got no problem with backups "running up the score". Third string QBs can air it all they want. They deserve game experience.
BigD
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There is some exaggeration there as midway through the third quarter he took his starters out. He did still throw the ball but that's what most successful coaches do. Hayden used to do it that way deliberately so he could get his backups in to get some good experience in.
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DDThompson
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This exactly. Don't shrink the playbook just because the game is in hand and the backups are playing.
Using all your playbook isn't the same as chucking all over the field like some have claimed Stanford did; they did pass a lot in the third quarter though.
Fryowa
Administrator
4 passes is throwing the ball all over the field?
BigD
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Hey will you quit confusing opinions with facts. Lol
I watched the entire game and was impressed with Stanford calling the dogs off. They could have named the score.
I do agree with the sentiment though. Roll up the score until the game is secured. Then get the backups some valued experience.
OMG no doubt. I've always wondered what the heck is the point of putting the 2nd team out there to just run up the middle. It's one thing if your talking about one drive late in the game. It's another if it's halfway through the 2nd quarter or start of the 3rd... It goes along with why do you burn a redshirt on QBs and RBs just to do that as well... It just makes no flipping sense to me to half ass it. If your 2nd team is in against their 1s then by no means are you obligated to take your foot off the gas. It's playing football And even if it is 2s against 2s in a lopsided game I don't see a problem with them playing football. It's what they are there for. Geesh.
Yup and the ramifications to that are you'll have players not want to stick around to be backups... Leading some to wonder what's up with the dragging on and on of picking a QB... I have a tough time believing that Wiegers wasn't really going to win the job and that they've (the coaches) have known that for awhile. Because look they've been in this battle for a year now. For Stanley to have won it and had his RS yanked and all that and now be where we are would mean Wiegers would have had to improve right? I'm going to assume Stanley didn't regress at all. Well from what little I've seen and I do emphasize little Wiegers hasn't looked very good to me. I don't like his throwing motion for one thing... But overall it just feels like if they'd have called this race earlier Wiegers may have looked around and by no means did Iowa want that...
mopkins
King Kong
Vs Iowa State last year:
Up 11 points: 12-yard TD pass to MVB
Up 18 points: 31-yard pass on the first play of the drive. 1 yard CJB run for the TD
Up 25 points: 25-yard pass followed by a 15-yard pass
Up 32 points: First play from scrimmage was an incomplete pass followed by a Daniels 43 yard TD run
Up 39 points: First two plays from scrimmage were 12 yard pass completions
Up 39 points: Stanley comes in. First play from scrimmage was a 2-yard pass completion. 3rd down pass as well
Where exactly was Iowa conservative vs Iowa State last year? You get a thumbs down for hyperbole.
Chickenlounge
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Ouch
Fryowa
Administrator
I'm with you on the concept, OP was being pretty dramatic about Stanford running it up though.
mopkins
King Kong
Also last year, up 23 points late vs Nebraska, Iowa ran the ball 13 straight times on their final drive. They basically shoved it down Nebraska's throat and humiliated them. It was awesome. They even went for it twice on 4th down and converted, just because they could.
Is that "conservative"? Maybe. Did that show complete awesome physical domination over a conference rival who thinks they're better than us? Absolutely.
Is that "conservative"? Maybe. Did that show complete awesome physical domination over a conference rival who thinks they're better than us? Absolutely.
BigD
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Fryowa I totally agree with you. They weren't running the score up at all. If they wanted to run the score up they would have left the starters in. When I saw who Stanford was playing I couldn't believe they were going broadcast the game nationwide. It could have been in the seventies if Stanford wanted it to be.
BigD
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This post made me smile. I remember back in the day when that shoe was on the other foot. Let's hope that trend continues.
SteveGarvey1
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I do so miss the days of Hayden, when he'd try and get up 55-0 and then try and score more.
Kirk's more button-down, obviously, but I loved it when Hayden just wanted to thump teams.
Kirk's more button-down, obviously, but I loved it when Hayden just wanted to thump teams.
