Wow, feel horrible for CJB. Here's a guy that was entrusted with the offense for the 2nd half of the Pitt game (in which he flat outplayed the starter) and then played a great second half on the road in his first college start only to have KF takes the keys away when the Hawks have a 16-point lead. Nothing says 'fair' competition like that. JR had one good quarter against a horrible Indiana defense (they gave up 45 to Bowling Green too) and then it was the same old Iowa. For his sake, I hope CJB takes the first bus out of Iowa City at the end of the semester and heads to some place where he gets an opportunity to showcase his abilities.
Sorry CJB, don't trust you with 16-pt lead
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Absolutely right man...got me. The best quarterback on the planet helped us roll past powerhouses UNI, Ball St., Iowa State and Pitt right. Thanks for catching that. Kudos to JR today, he played a good quarter. But to pretend like he was out there tossing the ball against the Seahawks is pretty sad even for you. Perhaps the gold tint on your glasses kept you from objectively evaluating his stellar play after that one quarter. But keep on going man...your bound to make a decent point sometime in the next several seasons.
ColoradoHAWKEYE
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Dude we don't win 2 of those games with Ruduck in at qb, injury or no injury. He was not getting it done. Now the leash may have been on a bit tight initially, but without the competition at qb and some heat on the coaches...ruduck would not be a shoe in for the position.
Ruduck played well, and I was an initial JR supporter, but even after today I'm not convinced. Time will tell.
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hawkeyebob62
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Why is nobody understanding that we actually NEED both QBs right now, and probably for the duration of this season?
I'm more disappointed that we didn't use CJ after the first series in 3rd quarter (always start your starters second half, barring injury or horrid play). He needs reps, AND, we need to "show" future opponents that both QBs can run the whole offense, not just a package of plays. Let opponents think more than they have to, IMO.
I'm more disappointed that we didn't use CJ after the first series in 3rd quarter (always start your starters second half, barring injury or horrid play). He needs reps, AND, we need to "show" future opponents that both QBs can run the whole offense, not just a package of plays. Let opponents think more than they have to, IMO.
DBAHawkFan
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He did OK. He was accurate on his short throws, not so much on his deep ones (Powell throw was very good).
It just seems like it takes so much effort for him to throw the ball down the field. He really has to commit to it early, and throw his entire body into it.
His throws to Smith today were on the money and wish we saw more of that.
He is a good game manager. The issue is the rest of our offense is so predictable it puts so much pressure on Jake. IU knew where we were going to run the ball. We caught them with Parker in the 1st Q, and Canzeri and MW had a few nice runs...but nothing great. I think MW was under 4 yards a carry again.
I don't think CJB got a fair shake. Two times he comes in and he runs the option offense? Really? Did we see this at all against Pitt or Purdue? Honestly, I don't remember. CJ kept the drive alive in the 2nd half and got us a much needed score (apparently we forgot how to do that in the 2nd half). CJ also should have been left in the game to finish it out. If you want to know if he can handle the job, then give him opportunities.
It just seems like it takes so much effort for him to throw the ball down the field. He really has to commit to it early, and throw his entire body into it.
His throws to Smith today were on the money and wish we saw more of that.
He is a good game manager. The issue is the rest of our offense is so predictable it puts so much pressure on Jake. IU knew where we were going to run the ball. We caught them with Parker in the 1st Q, and Canzeri and MW had a few nice runs...but nothing great. I think MW was under 4 yards a carry again.
I don't think CJB got a fair shake. Two times he comes in and he runs the option offense? Really? Did we see this at all against Pitt or Purdue? Honestly, I don't remember. CJ kept the drive alive in the 2nd half and got us a much needed score (apparently we forgot how to do that in the 2nd half). CJ also should have been left in the game to finish it out. If you want to know if he can handle the job, then give him opportunities.
theboat
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Obviously the rules aren't the same for both QBs. Rudock leads a TD drive, gets to stay in. Beathard leads a TD drive, he doesn't. Rudock goes three and out, gets to stay in. Beathard goes three and out, he doesn't.
Rudock might give us a better chance to beat the terrible teams on the schedule today, but Beathard is still the QB with tons more upside that Iowa needs if it wants to do anything more than go 7-5/8-4 against an incredibly weak schedule.
Rudock might give us a better chance to beat the terrible teams on the schedule today, but Beathard is still the QB with tons more upside that Iowa needs if it wants to do anything more than go 7-5/8-4 against an incredibly weak schedule.
^^^^^ X a billion, dead-on post.
DBAHawkFan
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This wasn't a competition. This was throwing CJ a bone to keep him somewhat game ready. Don't be surprised that Jake takes 99% of the snaps next week, with CJ getting the Option offense for a series.
HomerChampless
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CJB's first series was one running play to Weisman, one passing play to Martin-Manley in which it looked like MM wasn't used to CJB's ball because MM didn't turn around quick enough to catch it, and a third bad pass to Martin-Manley. A three and out. I imagine MM, being a first stringer, didn't play much with the second stringers and CJB so he wasn't used to the speed of CJB's pass.
Matter of fact, CJB's second series were all read option spread runs. On the last run in which CJB kept, it looked like he would be seriously injured because he was hit so hard as he was falling out of bounds. Another 3 and out. I turned the TV to another channel. This is a QB competition at Iowa? I hardly think so.
I guess you only play what you practice, huh, Ferentz? IMO, Rudock got all the practice time with the first stringers. CJB throwing to a first stringer (Martin-Manley) was an oddity, for sure, but that zone read package in CJB's second series, that's some pure trickery there, huh? Not.
Matter of fact, CJB's second series were all read option spread runs. On the last run in which CJB kept, it looked like he would be seriously injured because he was hit so hard as he was falling out of bounds. Another 3 and out. I turned the TV to another channel. This is a QB competition at Iowa? I hardly think so.
I guess you only play what you practice, huh, Ferentz? IMO, Rudock got all the practice time with the first stringers. CJB throwing to a first stringer (Martin-Manley) was an oddity, for sure, but that zone read package in CJB's second series, that's some pure trickery there, huh? Not.
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You don't think we beat Purdue with Rudock playing? You lose all credibility after the first sentence of your post, dude.
And learn how to spell the starting quarterback's name, ya tavernhok.
You sound an awful lot like Pollard and his "it's not fair" comments.
You have permission to kick me in the balls if Iowa goes 7-5 with this schedule.
So by this logic, if we sub anybody then the entire 2nd unit should go in the game because the new guy wouldn't be used to playing with the starters.
You suck, Homer.
Sparky
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Back under your bridge, troll. How many alts have you had?
theboat
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Nice attempt, but you have to make some sense in your troll if you want someone to bite.
ColoradoHAWKEYE
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Yeah, I'm a tavernhok...okay...not sure you know the true definition of that, but I'd guess you are off base by more than a few G's and several degrees on that one. Best to keep trying to call out on the others you've been attempting to lure.
HomerChampless
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Sounds a whole lot like Iowa's practice, if you ask me. And since Ferentz isn't a risk taker, the odds probably indicate this happens quite often.
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