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[HawkPhin]

the other team has better players. That was the case today. Our offense had a chance to put osu away, but their players executed better than ours and got a 3 & out. Our defense had a chance to put osu away on a 4th & ten, but their players executed better than ours and got a first down. Our guys had another chance to atleast force ot but their players got after us and forced a 4 and out. I don't think you can pin this one on the coaches, clearly osu has more talent than iowa and that was the difference. Period.

 

[CFHawk]

This is almost true. Except why not keep Coker in the game?

 

[Lionhawk]

Sorry but I cannot agree with your comment.

I believe the talent level was fairly equal. Did OSU execute better? On a few plays when the game was on the line the answer is yes. I thought most of the game the execution was fairly equal.

 

[CFHawk]

Sorry but I cannot agree with your comment.

I believe the talent level was fairly equal. Did OSU execute better? On a few plays when the game was on the line the answer is yes. I thought most of the game the execution was fairly equal.

This is true. Time to look at new cooordinators on both side of the ball. A a minimum.

 

[Auggie]

the other team has better players. That was the case today. Our offense had a chance to put osu away, but their players executed better than ours and got a 3 & out. Our defense had a chance to put osu away on a 4th & ten, but their players executed better than ours and got a first down. Our guys had another chance to atleast force ot but their players got after us and forced a 4 and out. I don't think you can pin this one on the coaches, clearly osu has more talent than iowa and that was the difference. Period.

But.......but..........that can't be

 

[HawkeyeWalker]

although a true point, I can't go with you on your point. We had better talent than IN, NW, and AZ in my opinion and we didn't win those games. Also, these losses were all with the lead in the 4th quarter. Everybody is blaming the defense, but in my opinion as just one of the million armchair quarterbacks out there, i think the offenses lack of getting first down, not necessarily scoring, it the culprit. Remember in almost all of our losses, minus AZ - that one is all on the special teams for the most part, NW, WISC, OSU are all wins if the offense get just a few first downs, flips the field position, and give the defense just a Little rest.

 

[HawkPhin]

Sorry but I cannot agree with your comment.

I believe the talent level was fairly equal. Did OSU execute better? On a few plays when the game was on the line the answer is yes. I thought most of the game the execution was fairly equal.

That proves my point. For example, Stanzi would have never been able to make that play that Pryor did. Plays like that are the difference in close games like this one was.

 

[PatrickAdamovicz]

Iowa has as good as talent as Ohio St. I know that may be hard for some to admit, but it's true. Check the NFL draft year in and year out. When teams are this equal, many times it comes down to coaching adjustments.

 

[ShadasRevenge]

That proves my point. For example, Stanzi would have never been able to make that play that Pryor did. Plays like that are the difference in close games like this one was.

No **** - that isn't Stanzi's game. The throw that Rick made to McNutt between two defenders and in front of a 3rd is a throw that Pryor can't make.

 

[HawkPhin]

although a true point, I can't go with you on your point. We had better talent than IN, NW, and AZ in my opinion and we didn't win those games. Also, these losses were all with the lead in the 4th quarter. Everybody is blaming the defense, but in my opinion as just one of the million armchair quarterbacks out there, i think the offenses lack of getting first down, not necessarily scoring, it the culprit. Remember in almost all of our losses, minus AZ - that one is all on the special teams for the most part, NW, WISC, OSU are all wins if the offense get just a few first downs, flips the field position, and give the defense just a Little rest.

I agree with your point abot the offense, but again it comes down to execution. End of game situations our offense and defense have failed miserably this year and that comes down our guys not being able to make plays and the opposing teams taking advantage.

 

[ShadasRevenge]

although a true point, I can't go with you on your point. We had better talent than IN, NW, and AZ in my opinion and we didn't win those games. Also, these losses were all with the lead in the 4th quarter. Everybody is blaming the defense, but in my opinion as just one of the million armchair quarterbacks out there, i think the offenses lack of getting first down, not necessarily scoring, it the culprit. Remember in almost all of our losses, minus AZ - that one is all on the special teams for the most part, NW, WISC, OSU are all wins if the offense get just a few first downs, flips the field position, and give the defense just a Little rest.

This is correct. Against Wisconsin, NW, and again tonight, the offense did not do enough at the end of the game to win it. On Iowa's last two possessions, Ricky got sacked despite having excellent protection all night.

 

[Auggie]

Iowa has as good as talent as Ohio St. I know they may be hard for some to admit, but it's true. Check the NFL draft year in and year out. When teams are this equal, many times it comes down to coaching adjustments.

You're out of your mind. Any talent evaluator worth a damn would choose the Ohio St. roster over Iowa's in a heartbeat. Especially once you get to the second string and beyond.

 

[unkydave]

Was this true last week as well? What about the week before that? Just asking.

 

[blkngldFRO]

the other team has better players. That was the case today. Our offense had a chance to put osu away, but their players executed better than ours and got a 3 & out. Our defense had a chance to put osu away on a 4th & ten, but their players executed better than ours and got a first down. Our guys had another chance to atleast force ot but their players got after us and forced a 4 and out. I don't think you can pin this one on the coaches, clearly osu has more talent than iowa and that was the difference. Period.

does North Western have better players? Does Indiana have better players, because if they guy catches that pass they win.

If they had better players then this would have been a blow out. We were leading in the 4th quarter. This is not about better players this is being out coached. Time to consider changes to the way our defense plays.

 

[okeefe4prez]

You're out of your mind. Any talent evaluator worth a damn would choose the Ohio St. roster over Iowa's in a heartbeat. Especially once you get to the second string and beyond.

Yep, look at where guys get drafted - Iowa throws out a first rounder every couple of years and OSU generally throws out a few first rounders every year.

 

[HawkPhin]

does North Western have better players? Does Indiana have better players, because if they guy catches that pass they win.

If they had better players then this would have been a blow out. We were leading in the 4th quarter. This is not about better players this is being out coached. Time to consider changes to the way our defense plays.

Last time I checked, the coaches job is to put his players in position, but its the players job to execute. What I've seen the last 3 weeks is that our players have blown coverages, missed tackles, miss blocks, drop passes, throw interceptions, kick balls out of bounds on kickoffs,and miss FGs.

 

[PatrickAdamovicz]

I'll say again, Iowa has as much talent as Ohio St. You can let bias of the 80's and 90's run rampant, but this is the year 2010, things have changed. Ohio St. currently has 39 players in the league to Iowa's 32. Of those 32 for Iowa, 18 of them are starters and the others are significant contributors. I don't know the numbers as far as starters go for OSU in the NFL, but Iowa's ratio is damn good. Also, what are you talking about two deep wise. Iowa loses Bulaga (NFLer) and replace him with Reiff who will be an Nfl player. They lose Calloway and replace with Zusevics who will be an Nfl player. Ricky Stanzi is a better QB than Pryor and Stanzi will be drafted at worst 3rd round. I'll take Vandenburg over Ohio St's backup at this point. Go to Marcus Coker, our backup RB, I think he stacks up very well especially after he was owning the Ohio St defense yesterday. I would say he is a very good 2 deep player. I could go on and on with the comparison, but as you'll see again in this draft Iowa will have multiple players drafted. Stanzi, DJK, Clayborn, Ballard, Reisner, Donahue and maybe a couple of others. If I remember right Iowa finished in the top 5 of last years draft as far as the number of players drafted from one school. I'll finish with last years draft again. Iowa had 6 members drafted, 1 - first rounder, 1 -second rounder, 2- third rounders, 1 - fourth round and 1- seventh rounder. In comparison, Ohio St and 1 - fourth rounder and 3 - seventh rounders. That's right, Iowa had 4 players off the board before Ohio St had 1.

 

[McNutt7gets6]

Iowa has as good as talent as Ohio St. I know that may be hard for some to admit, but it's true. Check the NFL draft year in and year out. When teams are this equal, many times it comes down to coaching adjustments.

Iowa has more talent this year than most years however the difference is a team like Ohio State has great talent 2 or 3 deep at every position.

Neither the defense or the offense has stepped up and won a game at the end when it counted this year. That's a big problem - that's a 4 (and should have been 5) loss problem.