I expect no change in who is the top 4. yes. Never said that is what should happen.
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I expect no change in who is the top 4. yes. Never said that is what should happen.
hawkdrummer1
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You want in? ... don't lose... and certainly don't lose TWICE.
Oh, and someone needs to add this side note. Big 12...not in. Saw a graphic yesterday about non-con records vs other P5 conferences. Big10 was #1, Big12 was last.
Oh, and someone needs to add this side note. Big 12...not in. Saw a graphic yesterday about non-con records vs other P5 conferences. Big10 was #1, Big12 was last.
HawkeyeWalker
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This is true, and also a big reason to go to 8 team playoff. while a 9, 10 team may still have a reasonable argument to be included, it would be much less relevant than a close 5, 6 team has in the current landscape.
Most years it will be clear cut and a big separation between the top 4-6 and everyone else. Very rarely could a 9, 10...really have a case.
This year, overall, its a pretty big gap between #1 and everyone else.
Also, with only 2 playoff games, there is more of a chance a team could simply get huge breaks and catch fire for 2 games....if you add that extra game, in my opinion, you get a better representation.
Look at last year, pretty clear that Alabama and Clemson were the best 2 teams, and Stanford probably should have been in over MSU, and probably Oklahoma. 8 team playoff would have sorted all that.
Side note, would love to see a Western Michigan(or non P5) get a crack. Sure, they have little shot, but I'd like to see that game over a fringe #8 P5 team.
FRANAMANIAC
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Well what all the talking heads predicted happened. I guess you can win then big ten and getbleft out
vork22
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What a joke they just made conference championships worthless.
Any at large teams in the playoff is going to open the door for an Ohio St situation in which winning your division is making more work for yourself while getting 2nd and not having to win the conference championship is better.
Also at large teams won't have to win on championship Saturday to get into the playoffs like all 8 divisions winners and the top 2 teams from the big 12 have to.
ShockHawk22
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I understand where the "4 champions"!arguement comes from and I don't completely disagree, but overal record should be considered (penn state has 2 losses) and overal resume should be considered.
Plus I'm 100% happy that Pedo State is the ones getting the shaft for once.
Plus I'm 100% happy that Pedo State is the ones getting the shaft for once.
Agreed. Bama, Clemson, WA all locks now. OSU is the one that is on shaky ground as they sat on their buns while the other 3 and Penn State all played (and won).
At worst, OSU drops to position 4 and gets hammered by Bama in a semi.
PSU shouldn't have lost to an avg Pitt team and more importantly they shouldn't have got obliterated by Mich.
If PSU would have had a very close hard fought loss at Mich then maybe but getting beat by more than 5 TDs?
Sooners with two bad losses now that Houston doesn't look that tough should be same as for PSU.
OSU won at Wisky and at MSU and beat a Mich team that crushed PSU while OSU lost at PSU on a blocked FG runback.
If PSU would have had a very close hard fought loss at Mich then maybe but getting beat by more than 5 TDs?
Sooners with two bad losses now that Houston doesn't look that tough should be same as for PSU.
OSU won at Wisky and at MSU and beat a Mich team that crushed PSU while OSU lost at PSU on a blocked FG runback.
deanvogs
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The criteria up to now was win your conference, because conference championships matter they told us. That is what they said when OSU jumped Baylor/TCU. Now when OSU is involved again, they tell us conference championships don't matter......There is no criteria, it is all BS smoke and mirrors and I can't believe some fall for this sham. The last thing I want is PSU in the college football playoffs....but they earned it on the field, OSU certainly didn't earn it, but they get rewarded.
ShockHawk22
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Penn State has 2 losses. They didn't earn it on the field. Unless you want to completely discount out of conference play. Championships should matter, but they should be everything.
deanvogs
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OSU played 1 less game than PSU as well, who knows if they win or lose if they have to play Wisconsin. PSU beat OSU head to head as well. Those 2 things should trump a non conference game played 3 months ago. Plus the committee is the one who told us conference championships mattered and the extra game mattered when OSU leap frogged teams 2 years ago.....
It is a rigged system. Anyone think a 2 loss Colorado who won the Pac12 was going over a 2 loss Michigan? Not a chance, it is about the name on the front of the jersey.
ShockHawk22
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All games should count. If PSU had the same record as OSU, then I completely agree. PSU goes. Take the 4 best teams.
Iowa beat Michigan, should be be in the orange bowl? No. because Michigan proved over the entire season they were the better team.
deanvogs
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I get it, I do, but it is crap that OSU gets a "bye" week while Washington and Clemson had to basically have an extra play in game. OSU wasn't perfect and neither were they. If you can't win your division I don't think you deserve a spot in the CFP, let alone earning a bye as well.
homes
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There was no way the don of college football was going to not going to have OSU in the CFP. He knows they have the best chance of beating Alabama.
theboat
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I don't like OSU at all, but they earned it. They beat better teams than the other 1 loss teams. They had a better loss than the other 1 loss teams too.
Hypothetical question: if Bama had lost to Florida yesterday, would ANYONE had said bama should be out or Florida in? Unless you can say that, then you really can't argue against OSU
