Some of the responses I am getting from Husker fans

JonDMiller

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are along the lines of: "You had one of your best decades, when this was one of our worst."

That is statistically accurate. However, let's look inside things a bit to find out why that is, and if it's reasonable to expect drastic change in either direction.

NEBRASKA: The nine or more win seasons from 1969 through 2001 will never be equaled. Ever. Maybe the greatest record in sports history. What is different now? There is no Tom Osborne/Frank Solich, and there is no wishbone attack. You were unique in the sport, with that attack. More unique in the 70's than you were in the 60's, more unique in the 80's than you were in the 70's and downright an oddity in the 90's compared to the 80's, because while the rest of the nation changed offensive philosophies, you became a departure from the norm..something unique to prepare for and something impossible to emulate.

Look at Georgia Tech right now, and the regular season success they are having in the ACC...it's tough to prepare for that style of offense in just four days of practice time, in season. Iowa had more than four weeks and made them look silly. But a regular season preparation setting is different, because no one else does what they do, and right now, no one does it better.

Nebraska had that, at a zenith, in the 1990's...and no surprise, they won two outright national titles and a sympathetic split national title in 1997, Osborne's swan song. Solich kept the same offense, and got fired after winning nine games.

Then came Bill Callahan and his west coast offense, and I said the day he was hired (on the radio), that he would last four years and be run out of there, and Nebraska's days of domination were over, because you were going to become just like everyone else...which you did...

Pelini has done a decent job, but I think that has been inflated. You went 3-4 against teams that finished with winning records last year. One of those was against an injury riddled Oklahoma team that was probably Stoops worst since his first year in Norman. It also came in the weakest BCS division in football, and in a league that doesn't play defense, except for you...which is why I look forward to your style in the Big 12.

Two years ago, you also went 3-4 against teams that finished with winning records, while mopping up on a weak division save Mizzou. That's 6-8 vs teams with winning records in Bo's first two years.

That's probably not an unusual formula for a lot of 8 to 9 win programs around the nation; not trying to single you out here...and you didn't have much of an offense last year, but did have the single most disruptive interior force I have ever seen at the college level.

This is to the point; you are not NEBRASKA any longer, and until you make yourself unique again, you won't be. That doesn't mean you wont go to bowl games and be a ranked team..it does mean that the swagger you have has a lot of dust on it, and is no longer relevant to today's reality, and the last decade has shown that.

As for Iowa...there have not been smoke and mirrors...Iowa's recruiting classes have probably averaged 38th to 45th over the last decade, in the national rankings. There is nothing fancy, just straight ahead football and execution...which is what I think Pelini is going to do...Iowa has flashed, just as you flashed last year. Building a program on fundamentals, as I think Bo will do with you, will allow a program that has resources to succeed, as Iowa has.

I dont think Nebraska is going to come into the Big Ten and stink it up, but just to say that Iowa had its best decade while Nebraska had its worst, that assumes that the glory days for Husker football are just a short time away...and I just don't see it, because you dont have the elements in place to be unique...and you don't have an ocean out front of the stadium, and you play in a winter latitude...

For the record, Iowa is 9-5 vs teams with winning records over the past two years, just to save you the time looking it up. Iowa also beat three teams last year that each won at least 10 games.
 
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Posts like this make us sound like ISU fans, like we have an inferiority complex and are trying to come up with reasons why we are better. I think right now we're a better team but we aren't even close to being on Nebraska's level in facilities or program history. Iowa State could have used the five year run at the end of the Fry era start of Ferentz era and made the exact same argument. As for how people nation wide perceive us, we're a step below Nebraska. The only way to change this is to go out and beat them on the field year in and year out.
 
Don't forget it is also much harder to use steroids in college now than at anytime. There was a reason so many good college football players walked on at Nebraska under Osbourne and became absolute beasts.

I agree with Jon that Nebraska will have success and probably over the long haul will have more conference wins than Iowa...but they will not do what they did to the Big 8.
 
Posts like this make us sound like ISU fans, like we have an inferiority complex and are trying to come up with reasons why we are better. I think right now we're a better team but we aren't even close to being on Nebraska's level in facilities or program history. Iowa State could have used the five year run at the end of the Fry era start of Ferentz era and made the exact same argument. As for how people nation wide perceive us, we're a step below Nebraska. The only way to change this is to go out and beat them on the field year in and year out.

Or does Nebraska's ego need to shrink a bit before being able to get through the door? Jon's comments have nothing to do with how the nation perceives us, but Nebraska's ego when it comes to the Hawks.

I have no problem with comments like this, the banter between Iowa and Nebraska is going to be ugly on both sides and both sides have the history to back up the smack. We all know Nebraska's history, Nebraska Fan lives in their Lincoln universe and sees what they want to see. Jon's simply pointing out what Nebraska may not know or may not want to acknowledge. The Hawks can and will compete with any team Nebraska puts on the field. And that's where the debate will be settled... On the field
 
Posts like this make us sound like ISU fans, like we have an inferiority complex and are trying to come up with reasons why we are better. I think right now we're a better team but we aren't even close to being on Nebraska's level in facilities or program history. Iowa State could have used the five year run at the end of the Fry era start of Ferentz era and made the exact same argument. As for how people nation wide perceive us, we're a step below Nebraska. The only way to change this is to go out and beat them on the field year in and year out.

Completely agree. This will all be settled on the field. I guess its easy for me to say since i live in IC and dont have to deal with any Huskers telling me how bad my football team is compared to theirs
 
This is precisely why I wouldn't want Nebraska in the Big 10. Nebraskans make us Iowans look positively sophisticated. Their culture just doesn't mesh with the Big 10. It looks like it's going to happen, so I might as well get used to it.
 
Pretty simple really...

If they joined and mop up they were right. If they join and are average they will learn a bit about humility.

But until then, I say we keep talking all kinds of crap back and forth just to make that first year that much more fun.
 
Don't forget it is also much harder to use steroids in college now than at anytime. There was a reason so many good college football players walked on at Nebraska under Osbourne and became absolute beasts.

I agree with Jon that Nebraska will have success and probably over the long haul will have more conference wins than Iowa...but they will not do what they did to the Big 8.

I really really resent that entire statement. Its not like they took a 200lb farm kid and made him into a 300lb wrecking machine. Cummon show some class.

And homes cummon man be real, i live in iowa and i go to the iowa state fair. Its like the pot calling the kettle black.
 
This is precisely why I wouldn't want Nebraska in the Big 10. Nebraskans make us Iowans look positively sophisticated. Their culture just doesn't mesh with the Big 10. It looks like it's going to happen, so I might as well get used to it.

Maybe the weirdest statement of the day....You really think we are that much more sophisticated and cultured than Husker fans? False, black bear
 
I have a feeling the Nebraska will realize what it stepped into after the first trip through the conference slate, it's going to be much different than the trip through the b12 north.
 
I have a feeling the Nebraska will realize what it stepped into after the first trip through the conference slate, it's going to be much different than the trip through the b12 north.

This.
Nebraskans would be well advised to dig in to Penn State's record since joining the B10.
The pumped-up swagger will diminish. Quickly.:cool:
 
Right now, I am sitting in my cubical in Omaha, Nebraska getting stopped every chance I move and asked about Nebraska going to the Big 12. I have talked to people I never talk to on facebook, aim, whatever about this....
All I have to say is this...

Nebraska fans......... This isn't the Big 8/Big 12... If they look ahead to Wisconsin...Northwestern will hand them their butts. Look what happened to Ohio St this past year against Purdue. There are no bye weeks. Nobody cares about what happened in the 80's and 90's. If you go into the Big 10 with all your mouths running and ego's flaring, you are going to get reality handed to you. The Big 10 is a helluva lot tougher top to bottom than the Big 8/12 and if you beat Penn St one week, don't be shocked if Illinois beats you the next week.
 
This is precisely why I wouldn't want Nebraska in the Big 10. Nebraskans make us Iowans look positively sophisticated. Their culture just doesn't mesh with the Big 10. It looks like it's going to happen, so I might as well get used to it.

Yeah there is a huge difference between the culture of Nebraska and the culture of Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota and Wisconsin. :rolleyes:
 
And homes cummon man be real, i live in iowa and i go to the iowa state fair. Its like the pot calling the kettle black.

I don't get the excitement over playing Nebraska, I guess. Not growing up in western Iowa, I've never considered Nebraska a rival. I've liked Nebraska football (does Nebraska even play other sports?) in the past, I've just never thought of them as being worthy of being a Big 10 school and what that all means. I should recognize that many, many people don't view it that way. So bring them on, let them in, we'll see how they do.
 
Yeah there is a huge difference between the culture of Nebraska and the culture of Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota and Wisconsin. :rolleyes:
We all wear flannels, have straw in our mouth and grow a plethera of crops and hogs/cows/chickens. Only thing different is Chicago and the Twin Cities. This guys is crazy, not you scott.
 
Iowa State fans are looking better and better everyday compared to Husker fans. They just can't join us in present day! They are all stuck in the 80's and 90's. There is nothing I can say to my Husker fan friends that can get them to shut up!
 
You half to admit though, the 80s and 90s were awsome for nebraska.

And homes, what makes this matchup so potent is that neighboring states. But how many people graduate from U of I move to Omaha for work and vice versa. Thats what makes it so potent is that lots of opposing fans live in the other state. Thats what makes the kettle boil.;)
 
I am speaking from Kansas City in the heart of the Big 12 and Missouri/KU. If I am annoyed by Husker fans now I can't even imagine what I am going to feel like in two years. No one is denying how good Nebraska was in the 80's and 90's. The key word is WAS. That is what you and the rest of the husker fans don't get.
 
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