So, what happens when Iowa beats Penn State this Saturday?

[homes]

Is it, where was that last week? Or, last week was an anomaly? Or, they only play well at home, wait to the Hawks go to NW or Wisconsin? Or, the Hawks have righted the ship, they're in control of their destiny again? All of the above?

Iowa will win this week. I've been watching them long enough to know this will happen. So, you might want to start drafting your responses now.

 

[archiehawk]

Doubt we will ever know.

 

[DBAHawkFan]

a Majority will be back on the KF/BF wagon claiming this team has “it” and we should never have doubted them.

Then we’ll lose to a lesser team which takes us out of the running for the West before November and we’ll hear that this is the best we can expect. And at least we’re bowl eligible!!!! Maybe even a NYD bowl!!!

 

[Fryowa]

Nothing changes.

Still have to play Wisconsin, and I guarantee you Iowa drops three or four of the rest.

To be honest, the people all butt hurt about this loss being the end of the season apparently were too stupid to realize that Iowa was never winning the west anyway. The team just isn’t that good. We beat 4 wet blankets and all of a sudden people think we have a shot at the CFP or something.

Like I said before, having conference divisions where you play everyone in your division every year is fun if you’re somewhat competitive, but your season gets the door slammed on it real quick if you slip up. You’re either fighting for a conference title, or hoping to make a toilet bowl. No in between.

Also, might as well enjoy this shit while it lasts, no matter how bad it may be. The Brain will be taking over here real shortly and we’re gonna be back to the 1970s before you know it. In five years you bastards are gonna be wishing like hell for 7 win seasons.

 

[Jonrn]

Nothing changes.

Still have to play Wisconsin, and I guarantee you Iowa drops three or four of the rest.

To be honest, the people all butt hurt about this loss being the end of the season apparently were too stupid to realize that Iowa was never winning the west anyway. The team just isn’t that good. We beat 4 wet blankets and all of a sudden people think we have a shot at the CFP or something.

Like I said before, having conference divisions where you play everyone in your division every year is fun if you’re somewhat competitive, but your season gets the door slammed on it real quick if you slip up. You’re either fighting for a conference title, or hoping to make a toilet bowl. No in between.

Also, might as well enjoy this shit while it lasts, no matter how bad it may be. The Brain will be taking over here real shortly and we’re gonna be back to the 1970s before you know it. In five years you bastards are gonna be wishing like hell for 7 win seasons.

I don’t know Brian could possibly any worse or any better than Kirk. Except he may say some crazy shit at pressers or in interviews.

I see 8-4 from now until my death with Phil running the defense until Seth Wallace takes over when he retires. Brian and polasek have the offense. Blah. Outback bowl city.

 

[1hawkeye1]

Nah we got this shit. Iowa beats psu. Then loses to wisconsin... badly.

 

[InGoodCo]

I try not to get too high or too low after a big loss or win. Iowa played like dog shit and still had a chance to win the game in my opinion, one of the harder places to play in the sport. It sucked to lose, but I really didn't have Iowa going undefeated anyways. I was thinking 8-4 with this schedule (which was my pre-season prediction) . Didn't make it hurt any less. That'll happen when you go like almost a calendar year in between loses.

 

[uihawk82]

Nothing changes.

Still have to play Wisconsin, and I guarantee you Iowa drops three or four of the rest.

To be honest, the people all butt hurt about this loss being the end of the season apparently were too stupid to realize that Iowa was never winning the west anyway. The team just isn’t that good. We beat 4 wet blankets and all of a sudden people think we have a shot at the CFP or something.

Like I said before, having conference divisions where you play everyone in your division every year is fun if you’re somewhat competitive, but your season gets the door slammed on it real quick if you slip up. You’re either fighting for a conference title, or hoping to make a toilet bowl. No in between.

Also, might as well enjoy this shit while it lasts, no matter how bad it may be. The Brain will be taking over here real shortly and we’re gonna be back to the 1970s before you know it. In five years you bastards are gonna be wishing like hell for 7 win seasons.

A lot of what you say is correct. On the 'Brian' being the next HCoach, how does anyone know he has developed the Head Coach organizational skills to be a great head coach?? Jerry Burns was OC but failed when handed the keys to a smooth running Cadillac, so no one knew if he could head coach. Ray Nagel and Francis X were both head coaches before Iowa so there was info on them. Hell, Bob Commings ran an almost MAC level like high school program in OHio that people in Iowa or Kansas etc cant even imagine the scope of. Ohio, Texas and Florida CA high school football is/was big time with big stadiums compared to Des Moines Iowa, etc.

How do we know Brian can hire and bring in great assistants since he has never done it before and maybe does not have the connections.

Yes this Iowa program avgs 8-4 and even has the 4-8 bad season to balance out the 12-0 season. But lets see if Brian and the coaches can bring back this offense. With this defense and a decent offense Iowa should be at least 9-3 this year. That probably comes up short of a West title but would be very good. 7-5 is a letdown and a after starting 4-0.

Overall, Iowa is a Top 20 program with facilities and money and history. They are Top 30 the last 20 years, should have been higher, so really why should Iowa not go after a proven head coach rather than hire an unknown Son? They shouldnt, Iowa should get a proven up and coming head coach who has a philosophy that fits in with 2020 football, great recruiting background, etc for its next head coach.

 

[Fryowa]

I don’t know Brian could possibly any worse or any better than Kirk. Except he may say some crazy shit at pressers or in interviews.

Assuming he’s the one doing the play calling now and continues when he takes over, Brain will be a five win average guy. It only takes two or three of those in a row to completely wipe out your recruiting, and at that point even a good coach can’t vie for conference championships. My biggest fear (if you can even call it that) is musical coaches if Brain turds it up.

 

[Fryowa]

A lot of what you say is correct. On the 'Brian' being the next HCoach, how does anyone know he has developed the Head Coach organizational skills to be a great head coach??

...How do we know Brian can hire and bring in great assistants since he has never done it before and maybe does not have the connections...
...
Iowa should get a proven up and coming head coach who has a philosophy that fits in with 2020 football, great recruiting background, etc for its next head coach.

I get what you’re saying 100%, but unfortunately none of that matters and that’s what’s so frustrating. Iowa won’t even test out the waters for coaches other than the token interview process that has to be done to make it legal. He’s automatically going to get the highest paid university job in the state with no previous HC experience, a super mediocre record as OC, and hired by his dad.

 

[TJHawkeye]

PSU has a better d than Michigan. Our line better show up.

 

[InGoodCo]

I honestly don't think this is all sewn up for Brian Ferentz to be the next HC. At all.... and how could anybody even know that? No one does and to be honest, nothing that's happened over the last few years make that an inevitable connection or scenario IMO. For that to happen, Iowa needs something much more tangible and they don't have it. Call me an idiot, but I think BF has a lot more to prove before he's just handed the keys to the Iowa Hawkeyes. I think people that say it's a foregone conclusion are just trolling fans with Ferentz fatigue.

 

[tksirius]

I honestly don't think this is all sewn up for Brian Ferentz to be the next HC. At all.... and how could anybody even know that? No one does and to be honest, nothing that's happened over the last few years make that an inevitable connection or scenario IMO. For that to happen, Iowa needs something much more tangible and they don't have it. Call me an idiot, but I think BF has a lot more to prove before he's just handed the keys to the Iowa Hawkeyes. I think people that say it's a foregone conclusion are just trolling fans with Ferentz fatigue.

 

[HawkeyeFever]

I honestly don't think this is all sewn up for Brian Ferentz to be the next HC. At all.... and how could anybody even know that? No one does and to be honest, nothing that's happened over the last few years make that an inevitable connection or scenario IMO. For that to happen, Iowa needs something much more tangible and they don't have it. Call me an idiot, but I think BF has a lot more to prove before he's just handed the keys to the Iowa Hawkeyes. I think people that say it's a foregone conclusion are just trolling fans with Ferentz fatigue.

I agree with this, and it also made me think of what really is going through Kirk's mind. As much as he would love to see his son follow in his footsteps, he also has to realize that as of right now (and possibly 4-5 years down the road), Brian is not worthy or capable of taking over the program.

I am sure that Kirk not only thinks about his legacy when he retires, but also his legacy 5-10 years after he retires and beyond. Will it influence his arm twisting when the time comes to replace him? If his gut tells him that Brian will not succeed and will more than likely sink the Iowa football program into total obscurity, does he still recommend him for the position and use his clout to make sure it happens? I think (and hope) not.

 

[okeefe4prez]

I agree with this, and it also made me think of what really is going through Kirk's mind. As much as he would love to see his son follow in his footsteps, he also has to realize that as of right now (and possibly 4-5 years down the road), Brian is not worthy or capable of taking over the program.

I am sure that Kirk not only thinks about his legacy when he retires, but also his legacy 5-10 years after he retires and beyond. Will it influence his arm twisting when the time comes to replace him? If his gut tells him that Brian will not succeed and will more than likely sink the Iowa football program into total obscurity, does he still recommend him for the position and use his clout to make sure it happens? I think (and hope) not.

Legacy. Puh-lease. If I could lock my son into $20 million of personal wealth but it tarnished "muh legacy," sign me the hell up. Anyone with kids who places the opinion of some asshat in Oelwein above financially setting their kids up for life is an idiot. And Kirk ain't an idiot.

 

[RobHowe]

My best guess is the opposite of what happened on here after this Saturday. It's pretty predictable. But thanks to everyone for playing.

 

[InGoodCo]

I just think it's gonna take more then what we've seen for that to happen. That's my opinion. I know it's not others. I don't look as BF as the HC in waiting at Iowa, I look at him as potential candidate. Personally, I've wanted that because I want the program to continue to be what it is, a really good football program. I think that it would be nice to have that foundation we have to continue on to the next regime.... but without anything tangible as evidence that it can go further with BF in the program, it will be a hard sell. I think they (Kirk and Barta) all REALLY want BF to be the next HC at Iowa.... it just isn't going to fly without more success and there isn't anything either can do except win more. Period. As of right now, as things stand, I would say he isn't getting a sniff at the gig but it's all based on how high they can get this thing before KF walks off. Right now, it's not been nearly high enough.

 

[Fryowa]

I honestly don't think this is all sewn up for Brian Ferentz to be the next HC. At all.... and how could anybody even know that? No one does and to be honest, nothing that's happened over the last few years make that an inevitable connection or scenario IMO. For that to happen, Iowa needs something much more tangible and they don't have it. Call me an idiot, but I think BF has a lot more to prove before he's just handed the keys to the Iowa Hawkeyes. I think people that say it's a foregone conclusion are just trolling fans with Ferentz fatigue.

Barta getting the contract extension was the nail in the coffin. Kirk is the only one who can sway donors and Harreld has no choice once the Pachas, Tippies, Uncle Brucie, and others give Kirk their support. Rastetter's on the BOR and Harreld wouldn't have gotten hired if it weren't for him.

Barta's extension is Kirk's easy peasy way for Brian to slide in with no ojection or fanfare. If Barta had gotten let go after one of his colossal F ups I might have said you had a chance of being right, but getting a raise and just long enough of a contract extension to get Brian hired is too much.

 

[HawkeyeFever]

Legacy. Puh-lease. If I could lock my son into $20 million of personal wealth but it tarnished "muh legacy," sign me the hell up. Anyone with kids who places the opinion of some asshat in Oelwein above financially setting their kids up for life is an idiot. And Kirk ain't an idiot.

Really? So hiring Brian as OC and paying him ~$800K/year isn't setting him up for life already? What do you think happens to Brian should he NOT get the head coaching position when his dad retires? School janitor? Give me a break.

If Kirk strong arms his son into the position and Brian fails, Kirk would be setting him up for the same reputation that Ronnie Harmon now has.

"Ronnie Harmon was the best RB ever at Iowa. Electric. Great hands, great moves, and worth the price of admission, but then he threw the 86 Rose Bowl!"

"KF was the winningest coach in Iowa history. B1G titles, Orange Bowl victory, top ten finishes, but then he went and ruined the program by vouching for his incompetent son!"

It matters.

 

[Jonrn]

I agree with this, and it also made me think of what really is going through Kirk's mind. As much as he would love to see his son follow in his footsteps, he also has to realize that as of right now (and possibly 4-5 years down the road), Brian is not worthy or capable of taking over the program.

I am sure that Kirk not only thinks about his legacy when he retires, but also his legacy 5-10 years after he retires and beyond. Will it influence his arm twisting when the time comes to replace him? If his gut tells him that Brian will not succeed and will more than likely sink the Iowa football program into total obscurity, does he still recommend him for the position and use his clout to make sure it happens? I think (and hope) not.

This is an interesting point. If Brian gets the job and fails spectacularly, that will do serious damage to kirks legacy.