So let me get this right.... Robinson

[HawkPrdatr40]

stop it

Stop it? If these kids were at Iowa I would be willing to bet everything I own that they wouldn't be playing in any bowl game. You can BOOK that.

 

[burky247]

Stop it? If these kids were at Iowa I would be willing to bet everything I own that they wouldn't be playing in any bowl game. You can BOOK that.

I'm not sure how that means that Ferentz has values and Tress doesn't(and I think it's a huge assumption in the first place). From all accounts, at OSU you are suspended for a game the first time you fail a drug test. At Iowa, it depends on the circumstances. That doesn't mean that Tress automatically has values and Ferentz doesn't just because of that either. Each coach treats situations differently.

My point is that I haven't seen any evidence that Tressle doesn't run his program the right way. You can't be held responsible for everything these kids do(same argument Iowa fans make about Ferentz and our player's criminal records).

 

[shomehawk]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$BCS$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Exactly.... How many OSU fans would travel to the game if these players were not playing.

 

[HawkPrdatr40]

I'm not sure how that means that Ferentz has values and Tress doesn't(and I think it's a huge assumption in the first place). From all accounts, at OSU you are suspended for a game the first time you fail a drug test. At Iowa, it depends on the circumstances. That doesn't mean that Tress automatically has values and Ferentz doesn't just because of that either. Each coach treats situations differently.

My point is that I haven't seen any evidence that Tressle doesn't run his program the right way. You can't be held responsible for everything these kids do(same argument Iowa fans make about Ferentz and our player's criminal records).

Fair enough..

 

[ChosenChildren]

Tressel is about one thing. Winning. Period. He talks a good game, but watch the actions and the type of person he recruits. OSU is all about winning.

I would like to think that Ferentz stands for more than that

 

[burky247]

Tressel is about one thing. Winning. Period. He talks a good game, but watch the actions and the type of person he recruits. OSU is all about winning.

I would like to think that Ferentz stands for more than that

Well he does get paid to win(psst...Ferentz does as well).Not sure what you mean by "type of person he recruits". You may have to expand on that comment. You could argue that it's "OSU that is all about winning" more than Tressle himself. I just haven't seen a whole lot of evidence that Tress is any different than Ferentz. Tress wins more and maybe Ferentz graduates players at a better clip. But Ferentz wins plenty and Tress does an decent job by all accounts of graduating players as well. Perhaps I'm ignorant of the situation and someone could point it out to me.