Simple answer to replace BCS

UP6936

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Why would a "plus one" system not make nearly everyone happy?

Go back to the bowl system that existed before all of this BCS garbage started.

1. - Personally, I would love to get rid of half of the "minor" bowl games that hardly anybody outside of the two teams playing in them care anything at all about. I would also raise the number of wins for bowl eligibility to be 7. I might even require bowl eligible teams to have at least a .500 winning percentage in their conference.

Whatever bowl games, in actuality, are about today, they SHOULD be about rewarding excellence and a season well-played, not mediocrity. At the very least, a team should have won more games on their schedule than they lost. Getting a bowl bid after winning only half of your games overall or winning less than half of your conference games is almost like getting a ribbon for participation.

I realize that getting rid of bowls and upping the requirements for bowl eligibility aren't gonna happen, because its all about the money nowadays, so I won't be holding my breath on that. That's not important in determining a national champion anyway, so I can live with it.

2. - Go back to the old bowl alliances: B1G and Pac 12 in the Rose Bowl EVERY year, Big 12 champ to the Orange Bowl, etc. etc. The SEC goes to the Sugar Bowl??? Is that correct?

3. - All Bowl games must be played not later than January 1st and only the traditional January 1st bowl games will play on January 1st. Back to having major bowl games, and only major bowl games, on New Year's Day from the time you get up in the morning until you go to bed.

4. - After all of the bowls have played out, a final round of voting is made (you could even keep the current sytem used by the BCS if you wanted to) and THEN the two top teams are identified.

5. - Seven to ten to fourteen days after January 1st, the two top teams would meet at a neutral location (maybe they could even find a location equidistant from and/or between both schools) to play the National Championship game. Personally, I would wait two weeks and play the NC games around January 15th. This would give the teams some extra time to heal up from the long season and do some in depth game planning. This would also give the fan bases some time to rebound from the bowls and make travel plans.

How does that not make all parties involved (fans, schools, bowls, media) happy, or at least content? The bowls live on. Money is made by all. Traditions are retained, and even brought back. January 1st becomes college football heaven again. The BCS dies the death it mercifully deserves. Playoff proponents get another round, albeit only one game.

A full playoff would be great in theory, but the logistics may just be too much to overcome (even though every other division of college football somehow manages to pull it off), and the bowl games are too beloved and too lucrative to ever go away.
 
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Why would a "plus one" system not make nearly everyone happy?

Go back to the bowl system that existed before all of this BCS garbage started.

1. - Personally, I would love to get rid of half of the "minor" bowl games that hardly anybody outside of the two teams playing in them care anything at all about. I would also raise the number of wins for bowl eligibility to be 7. I might even require bowl eligible teams to have at least a .500 winning percentage in their conference.

Whatever bowl games, in actuality, are about today, they SHOULD be about rewarding excellence and a season well-played, not mediocrity. At the very least, a team should have won more games on their schedule than they lost. Getting a bowl bid after winning only half of your games overall or winning less than half of your conference games is almost like getting a ribbon for participation.

I realize that getting rid of bowls and upping the requirements for bowl eligibility aren't gonna happen, because its all about the money nowadays, so I won't be holding my breath on that. That's not important in determining a national champion anyway, so I can live with it.

2. - Go back to the old bowl alliances: B1G and Pac 12 in the Rose Bowl EVERY year, Big 12 champ to the Orange Bowl, etc. etc. The SEC goes to the Sugar Bowl??? Is that correct?

3. - All Bowl games must be played not later than January 1st and only the traditional January 1st bowl games will play on January 1st. Back to having major bowl games, and only major bowl games, on New Year's Day from the time you get up in the morning until you go to bed.

4. - After all of the bowls have played out, a final round of voting is made (you could even keep the current sytem used by the BCS if you wanted to) and THEN the two top teams are identified.

5. - Seven to ten to fourteen days after January 1st, the two top teams would meet at a neutral location (maybe they could even find a location equidistant from and/or between both schools) to play the National Championship game. Personally, I would wait two weeks and play the NC games around January 15th. This would give the teams some extra time to heal up from the long season and do some in depth game planning. This would also give the fan bases some time to rebound from the bowls and make travel plans.

How does that not make all parties involved (fans, schools, bowls, media) happy, or at least content? The bowls live on. Money is made by all. Traditions are retained, and even brought back. January 1st becomes college football heaven again. The BCS dies the death it mercifully deserves. Playoff proponents get another round, albeit only one game.

A full playoff would be great in theory, but the logistics may just be too much to overcome (even though every other division of college football somehow manage to pull it off), and the bowl games are too beloved and too lucrative to ever go away.

You're an idiot. This makes too much sense. ;)
 
Voting to determine who plays in a game is stupid. No matter how you try to dress it up.

People who think the current convoluted conference configurations can lead to a simple and viable choice of a national champion are also stupid.
 
This was basically my idea I posted in another thread. But there is no reason to get rid of the minor bowl games if you are not a fan of them then just do not watch them. But a +1 game is definitely the way to go while keeping the bowl system in tact.
 
Fans wouldnt make two trips...

The SAME fans might not make two trips, but you're telling me that if a team makes it to the NC game the respective fan bases wouldn't represent?

Some fans would indeed make both trips, with a national championship on the line, other fans would step up.

How many Super Bowl attendees are not fans of either team? The NC game would pick up general college football fans as well.
 
I don't see how the plus one solves anything. Instead of pre-bowl ******** and moaning, we have post-bowl ******** and moaning. Its still a beauty pageant.
 
There are a lot of simple solutions. I'd like to see them play the final four on the heisman trophy weekend on the higher team's home field. You get to keep the bowl games, and you only add 1 additional game to 4 teams' schedules. This year it would be Stanford at LSU and Okie St at Bama. We'd still have the same result as LSU and Bama would roll in both of those games, but it would at least be a more fair system.
 
I don't see how the plus one solves anything. Instead of pre-bowl ******** and moaning, we have post-bowl ******** and moaning. Its still a beauty pageant.

No matter what system is devised and how thoroughly it might get tweaked through the years, there will ALWAYS be people who will be dissatisfied with the end result. This plan is intended to minimize the b!tching and moaning, not eliminate it.

After all is said and done, don't even playoff proponents, like myself, have to recognize that the debate and acrimony over the national champion is at least a small part of the fun of college football? I am not, necessarily, looking for a controversy free national champion. I would just like the process to be a generally respected process and to not have the potential for being a complete farce anymore.
 
So you guys are saying Stanford, who is the P12 runner up should get to play for the NC, but the P12 champ shouldn't?

Simple minds devise simple solutions.
 
So you guys are saying Stanford, who is the P12 runner up should get to play for the NC, but the P12 champ shouldn't?

Simple minds devise simple solutions.

Why should status within conference be a determining solution for National Champion?
 
Only conference champions involved. The semi-final games can be bowls or played on neutral sites.
 
Only conference champions involved. The semi-final games can be bowls or played on neutral sites.


Why only conference champions? You don't need to be a conference champion to win the NCAA bball tourney, super bowl, world series, stanley cup, nba finals, etc etc etc. A conference shouldn't be punished if they have more than one great team.

Whatever playoff system is used it should be based on the top ranked teams, regardless of conference. (this would be assuming they revamp the ranking system - get rid of coaches rankings and the goofy harris poll clowns)
 
I used to be a proponent of conference champion only but then you are limiting eligibility based on only 2/3rds of the schedule. It also would nearly eliminate meaning to non-conference teams.

How do the playoffs work in FCS play?
 
Plus 1 would be perfect

LSU vs Stanford
Bama Vs Okie St

Winner players for the 'ship...sure the 5th place team would ***** and moan but who cares. It would be a thousand times better than the current format
 
Becuase if you go to a plus one system then the media would have 4 SEC teams in the Top 4.
 
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fuisu 62 posts
#1 vs #4 Dec 18th
#2 vs #3 Dec 19th
Than a championship game.... Jan 8th
Keep the current bowls & add the Cotton Bowl to the BCS system (Two at large bids). Why the Cotton? Because it has tradition and Texas is in-between east and west coasts with no current BCS bowl. This allows 3 teams from the same conference or a nonAQ team get a BCS bid with more ease and less strain on the current system
Hold the BCS bowls on Jan1 only starting with whatever and ending with the Rose Bowl since it can carry the late nite timeslot. Move all non BCS bowls to before the 1st and for god sakes no more overlapping times (IE: 4 B1G games within an hour of each other on Jan 2 this year)
Have the Championship game the next Saturday night with a rotating yearly BCS game before it (IE: Sugar in 2012 before Champ game, Feista in 2013 before Champ game, Orange in 2014 before champ game)
Only one conference can have two teams in the playoff system. Thus preventing media bias voting. So if Arkansas was number 3 this year, they're be left out and jumped to the next highest ranked BCS team. And if Okie is next, no other B12 team can be selected as 4 to prevent bias voting. 4th team has to be from a different conference and has to be highest ranking team that is next in line. This allows a divisional playoff like system and prevents ESPN setting up 2 SEC teams and 2 B12 teams against each other year in and year out.
Problem solved, and it's a win-win across the board. Jan 1 bowl games will have meaning. The lesser bowls will have a more primetime showing. Not too long of a playoff system that would put constraints on costs for schools with travel, education time loss, etc. It still allows for buco bucks to be earned on making a BCS bowl. It allows 4 teams fight for the number 1 spot, it prevents media biasness, and allows nonAQ teams to have a chance to make a bowl with 2 more at large bids.
But this makes too much sense
 

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