Sienna averaged at least 74.4ppg in all five Fran years

[urohawk]

I see your point and I know that he wouldn't just kick them to the curb. I agree you present all the information you have to the player and let them make the choice and if they choose to leave help them. What I thought you were getting at is telling the player he won't have a place on the team which I think is just wrong if the player is in good standing at school and off the court.

I guess we just disagree about how much roster overall is needed for his system to work. I think everybody acknowledges that more help is needed in ball-handling but aside from that I think we have players that can do well in his offense. The lack of center I feel is less important in this offense than Licks (if you are playing slow you need to throw it inside).

Bottom line is if one of the reserves leaves it wouldn't break my heart but I also don't think it is absolutely needed.

 

[woodyk1]

In the CR Gazette article today (Iowa players taking a shine to new offensive scheme | GazetteOnline.com) , it mentioned the difference between Iowa and Sienna this year:

Stark statistical differences separated Siena from Iowa this year. Siena averaged 60 shots and 27.3 field goals made per game. Iowa put up 51 shots and 21 field goals a game. Siena hit on 45.4 percent of its shots, while Iowa sank just 41.4 percent from the floor.

9 more shots a game over 40 minutes means about 1 more shot every 4 minutes or so.

 

[JehovahShalom]

CAARHawk.... I think these guys will be able to "run" just fine. I doubt they all played "slow ball" in HS. Now... running in HS isn't running in the Big10.

I would also disagree that Lick's system kept us in games. I think his system cost us more games than it won us. It’s my “professionalâ€￾ opinion that Mr. Davis could take this team and make the DANCE.... we will see I guess, but I think White-Magic will win more next year than Lick won this year…. Even without Fuller.

** should be noted I’m hitting the Kool-Aid real hard right now….

Jehovah.

Consider this, until we hear that Fuller is staying, that is up in the air. Also, Lick's system, although boring as **** did keep Iowa in striking distance and allowed the team to play without a center, not overly athletic players, fewer contributors, and one PG.

Change the system with the current roster to a more running system and these limitations have more impact.

Again, FM may go out and get the PG, which would help. Fuller might be back, which would really help, or he might be able to use Fuller's scholly for another contributor. But, it is not a foregone conclusion that FM will fare a whole lot better at this point.

 

[hillman]

Hillman: You are misunderstanding me. My point is that FM's first team at Siena would have fared worse if it was in the Big Ten. I am not saying Iowa is better than that team. However, I think FM will have more to work with than he had with his first team at Siena with the incoming recruits.

However, as it currently stands, I don't think his Iowa team would match his Siena teams from year 2 and on, because of the Big Three and Hasbrouk.

That is why I think he needs to clear some scholarships.

I probably shouldn't have directly quoted your post, but it was convenient, and one of many on this board with a similar bent.

Fran's first team at Siena ( that'd be 2005-6 ) wasn't very good ( .500 ) you're right, but I don't see the point there. Obviously that was with inherited players. Following that, he won 20 or more every year, and using RPI as a measure, all of those teams were superior to recent Iowa teams. It's not even close.

Iowa lately is more on the level of programs like St Peter's and Canisius... ie, MAAC teams that Siena has dominated. From a basketball standpoint, this is a step down for McCaffrey, but he seems to like the challenge of building a program ( and he'll be extremely well-compensated ).

Unfortunately, I don't expect him to succeed. Leaving Siena has not been kind to the careers of head coaches. Kind to their wallets, yes, but not their careers. Mike Deane left and had brief success at Marquette, before falling off the map and most-recently getting fired from Wagner after a 5-win season. Louis Orr left for the Big East, with moderate success and is now .500 in the MAC. Paul Hewitt has had the best of it, but even he survives at Georgia Tech mostly because of his crazy contract that he signed after a 5-game winning streak that happened to occur during the Tournament eight years ago.