imported_ankle23
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yeah, i hear 'redskin' used often in our culture today. never here ****** used. what a pharse.
Should the Washington Redskins change their name?
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yeah, i hear 'redskin' used often in our culture today. never here ****** used. what a pharse.
MeatMan
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says the guy who has never been discriminated against.
H8IAST8
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Without question, yes. It is beyond offensive.
1hawkeye1
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Boo hoo, I'm offended.......the world must change for me.
Nothing bores me more than the phrase “that offends me,” uttered by a person who decides to define himself (or herself) according to some aspect of that self — as a fat person, a thin person, a vegetarian person, a meat-loving person, a Christian person, an atheist — and then presumes to “take offense” at things, on behalf of all the people in the world who share some form of that defining characteristic.
Get over yourself and your wittle feewings.
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Nothing bores me more than the phrase “that offends me,” uttered by a person who decides to define himself (or herself) according to some aspect of that self — as a fat person, a thin person, a vegetarian person, a meat-loving person, a Christian person, an atheist — and then presumes to “take offense” at things, on behalf of all the people in the world who share some form of that defining characteristic.
Get over yourself and your wittle feewings.
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1977Hawkeye
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I can't speak for boat, but don't be so quick to assume that he has never been discriminated against just because he's white. I am white and can tell you for a fact that I have been discriminated against by black people.. Are you one of those people who thinks that minorities are never racists? This really DOES go both ways.
And no, the skins should not change their names just because people are whining louder about it. That's been their nickname for ages.
H8IAST8
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We are not talking about the Chiefs, Seminoles, Fighting Ilini, or Fighting Sioux. We are talking about the REDSKINS. And someone showing racisim toward you does not make it ok for you or for a sports team (in the Nations capital no less)
to do the same.
Redskin - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
American Heritage Dictionary Entry: redskin
to do the same.
Redskin - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
American Heritage Dictionary Entry: redskin
trj
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If you leave the house today I'm sure if you look hard enough something could offend you. Regardless of who you are or what you are. To me it's intent of what it is. Is whoever the owner at the time that they named the Redskins trying to be offensive or were they paying homage to them? I think owners are trying to make money. Period. Even back then. They figured that was a catchy name with a catchy logo and away you go. Is Daniel Snyders reasoning for not changing along those lines or what? I've never heard his reason as to why he won't change it. Honestly whenever the Washington Redskins name comes up in conversation. Indians and what the true definition of it never crosses my mind. I just think about the sports team. Same with the Atlanta Braves etc... I'm such a sports nut that pretty much whenever any city is brought up I corolate them to what sports team is tied to them. I'm prolly not a normal person in that regard by any means at all but I don't hear or see the name Redskins and their logo and automatically think anything along ethnic lines at all. I never did. Even as a kid. I looked at it as a way to coralate a city to a team. That's it. Does that mean those that are offended by that are wrong to be offended? No, who am I to say they should or shouldn't be. But you know what? If something like that did offend me what I would do is ignore it then. Life is too short to intentionally go be apart of something that upsets you enough to be offended on purpose. The best way to make their point would be to boycott the team/NFL. Hit em where it hurts the most their pockets. If his earnings were to slow down let alone go backwards or the NFLs in general to the point where Goodell would HAVE to get involved then that's when things would change. Till then this is all irrelevant. Status quo will continue...
MeatMan
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first bolded part, the exact opposite of this is true for me. in fact, when the whole Riley Cooper thing went down this summer I mentioned that while apparently the dreaded "N-word" is terrible enough to severely punish a player, a team is perfectly fine having a name that is racially offensive.
second bolded part, has this ever been true of you? i doubt it by the way you talk.
I can see how the word Redskins would be looked at as offensive. I see that. I just never did or do myself. I'm objective enough to see how people would.
To be honest I can't think of a scenerio in witch I've been offended to any extent that ticked me off to want to do more then walk away. The piddley type of things that have momentarily gotten under my skin wouldn't. I wouldn't even count those towards a conversation such as this. I learned at a young age that some things aren't worth getting worked up over. Weather or not someone else thinks I'm short, tall skinny fat ugly whatever just never bugged me even in highschool. Those types of things I wouldn't put on this level to begin with.
But at one point in time, the word "******" WAS commonly used in culture, even more so then "redskin," until people opened their eyes.
1hawkeye1
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How do you know that they wouldn't just laugh and say I don't play football and have more money then they do... Now that would be the best way to deal with someone that would have the balls to do that. Those Tama Indians have won the "war" they are raking it in just because of who their ancesters are. Nothings more American then that
kicker22
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So maybe all these people that find it offensive should take up a collection to buy the name on the front of the jersey. You see players buying the number from other players all the time so why not let the money do the talking.
Tired of the whining and ******** by these groups. You want it done. Fork up the money that will get management to change their minds.
Tired of the whining and ******** by these groups. You want it done. Fork up the money that will get management to change their minds.
thejumper5
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Rick Reilly on the issue. One of the best defenses of the name that I've ever read.
Redskins name change not as easy as it sounds - ESPN
Redskins name change not as easy as it sounds - ESPN
