Should the Iowa Athletic Dept Fund UNI?

no, but i dont think iowa should be paying for FCS games against teams other than UNI either.
 
Sure. Maybe the day schools like Texas, Ohio State, etc. start sharing THEIR athletic department revenue with other smaller in-state schools..

Besides, I'm not sure how UNI or Drake is entitled to a share of the money that IOWA gets from going to a bowl game, donations, etc. Nonsense.
 
This already went through the ISU Boards. The answer is yes both ISU and IA are on solid ground and should contribute to the UNI athletic dept. UNI is a school dominated by in state students so it helps the state of IA. IA would pay more than ISU and each years payment could be different based on the financial condition of the dept. This would take the heat off the state funding as well. NEither IA or ISU would feel the pinch. It should be done.

Jon whats your thoughts. I know the ISU and IA extremists will say **** UNI let them burn in hell. That is no way to build "State" schools that have received state funding for many years in the past. Thoughts
 
1977Hawkeye said:
Sure. Maybe the day schools like Texas, Ohio State, etc. start sharing THEIR athletic department revenue with other smaller in-state schools..

Besides, I'm not sure how UNI or Drake is entitled to a share of the money that IOWA gets from going to a bowl game, donations, etc. Nonsense.
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drake is private, so they are not.

but the 3 regents schools are not stand alone entities. like it or not, we are all on the same team in the grand scheme of things, which is providing high quality education. the athletic departments are simply auxiliary enterprises of the schools.
 
9YRPLAN said:
1977Hawkeye said:
Sure. Maybe the day schools like Texas, Ohio State, etc. start sharing THEIR athletic department revenue with other smaller in-state schools.. Besides, I'm not sure how UNI or Drake is entitled to a share of the money that IOWA gets from going to a bowl game, donations, etc. Nonsense.
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drake is private, so they are not. but the 3 regents schools are not stand alone entities. like it or not, we are all on the same team in the grand scheme of things, which is providing high quality education.
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How does providing a high level of education have anything to do with taking money from another universities athletic fund?

If UNI us unable to support a sports program drop it and stick with education.
 
Cyhawk said:
This already went through the ISU Boards. The answer is yes both ISU and IA are on solid ground and should contribute to the UNI athletic dept. UNI is a school dominated by in state students so it helps the state of IA. IA would pay more than ISU and each years payment could be different based on the financial condition of the dept. This would take the heat off the state funding as well. NEither IA or ISU would feel the pinch. It should be done.

Jon whats your thoughts. I know the ISU and IA extremists will say **** UNI let them burn in hell. That is no way to build "State" schools that have received state funding for many years in the past. Thoughts
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**** this, **** UNI and screw you and your socialism.
UNI deficit is UNI's problem, not mine. And not the University of Iowa's.

If UNI cannot afford intercollegiate athletics then UNI should drop intercollegiate athletics.

We shouldn't subsidize UNI.
Panther fans say that we don't respect their program? Darn right we don't. Especially if someone else has to pay their way.
Just like some Food Stamp, section 8 bum takes out a mortgage on a house they could never afford doesn't mean I should pay for his mistake.
 
Iowa and/or Iowa State already do a decent job of putting money in their coffers by scheduling them in FB and BB.
 
Does Michigan and OSU support their smaller state schools? Iowa has enough trouble keeping up with those schools with their much smaller endowments.
 
If Iowa needs to help fund UNI then Gartner's Iowa Cubs franchise needs to pay the City of Des Moines a fair market value price for its lease of Principal Park and share concession/parking revenue with the city and county...
 
HobbieHawk said:
**** this, **** UNI and screw you and your socialism.
UNI deficit is UNI's problem, not mine. And not the University of Iowa's.

If UNI cannot afford intercollegiate athletics then UNI should drop intercollegiate athletics.

We shouldn't subsidize UNI.
Panther fans say that we don't respect their program? Darn right we don't. Especially if someone else has to pay their way.
Just like some Food Stamp, section 8 bum takes out a mortgage on a house they could never afford doesn't mean I should pay for his mistake.
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i dont recall seeing these type of posts when iowa was using general fund money every single year up until 2007.

its misguided that iowa or ISU should directly subsidize UNI, but its equally misguided to say that every athletic department should be self-sufficient. only a handful of athletic departments in the entire country do this. are you saying that nearly every school in the country should drop intercollegiate athletics?
 
I love sports as much as the next guy, but colleges are there for one real purpose= to educate. All other things are secondary and can be taken care of in a capatalist way. In no way should any tax dollars be spent on sports. If a school has enough fan following to sustain itself than great, if the athletic department has enough revenue to share that with other sports/programs then great. I do think revenue sharing in the B1G is a great idea and leads to improved bottom lines for all schools in th B1G. I wish our government could figure out how to operate more like the B1G sure there are the few people making millions, but all the teams in the B1G are striving for greatness, while at the same time sharing in the success, and when a reasonable amount of success is not acheived the market demands changes ( new coaches AD's etc) to strive for greatness. The one hang-up for all college sports however will always be the pay for play argument, but that is more of an NCAA thing. If every conference could set the salary schedule then perhaps the B1G could compete with the SEC on a regular basis. Also, I'm not quite sure how if the B1G shares revenue, and you make IA share it with UNI then doesn't that weaken IA in there conference standing.
 
Iowa actually has 4 regent schools. And the concept that Iowa took "general fund" money, although technically accurate, but barely, is not 100% accurate.
 
I agree that if it was money to support flailing education program, then money could be re-distributed to support it, to the extent the program is not offered or otherwise available at one of the other institutions.

However, if you cannot sustain your extra-curricular activities on your own terms, then those activities should be cutback, eliminated or whatever else is needed to make ends meet. It happens all the time in the real world. It's called bankruptcy/going out of business. Life's a ***** sometimes, deal with it.
 
I think Mr Gartner needs to focus his energies on the rising cost of tuition. This is a national problem. Higher Education costs are exceeding the rate of inflation. Maybe, just maybe, if UNI had lower tuition costs the athletic funds would support the athletes in their programs.
 
Extra-curricular means unrelated to the curriculum. Athletics are, by their very nature, not related to the purpose of the school. If you want something "extra" then you need to be financially responsible and put yourself in a position to be able to afford that luxury. I have no doubt that if a Tornado leveled the UNI campus that every University in the state would allocate resources to assist in the rebuilding of the damage. But this isn't what we're talking about. The best thing Iowa can do is help UNI help themselves. Much like families of drug addicts, they justify financially supporting the lifestyle because if they don't then they might lose that family member. These are called enablers and they do more damage than they do good. Helping those who need help is commendable, but money isn't always helpful, and in this case it would do more harm than good.
 
Just a rule of thumb for everyone. Whatever Gartner says, take the opposite position and you'll be fine.

I think UNI and ISU football ticket purchasers should contribute to my season ticket costs. It's entirely unfair that I should have to pay more to watch Iowa football.
 
Gartner is a pot stirrer, pure and simple. I'm inclined to believe that while he may honestly feel this is a fair and feasible solution, he's smart enough to know there's no chance it will ever happen. Whether attempted by the Board of Regents or the legislature, the ruckus it would raise would be deafening. As former president of the BOR he had every opportunity to try to act on this idea and chose not to. That's not a coincidence.

Edit: Not to mention that even if there were such a statute, both the UI and ISU athletic departments would (to the astonishment of everyone) annually show a loss.
 
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