Scouting Michigan - Every offensive snap - HD YouTube Video

[JLoss]

I seriously think we will be ok as long as we play assignment football. If he makes it to the second level, we have a certain hard hitter with the number 9 that is sure to make him pay. Sash hasnt seen much action yet this year, you can bet he is ready to drop the hammer.

 

[whammer33024]

who is this "sash" you speak of? unless you mean TMFS. if so, i completely agree

 

[ShadasRevenge]

It's not exactly unreasonable to expect you to watch the videos before drawing conclusions. Robinson hasn't taken very many real hits. Chris Johnson doesn't take big hits, either, at least not like most running backs. He gets down before the bonecrushing hit gets to him, or slips around so that the impact is minimized. He even leaves his feet just before contact sometimes to avoid knee injuries.

We might get a shot or two on him, maybe more. But I'm certainly not going to kick back and say: we're just gonna beat him to a pulp.

If ankle is like I am, he's not going to sit through however many minutes of video that is to form an opinion. I'm interested in a lot of things, but watching every offensive snap for Michigan to this point in the season is not one of them.

DROB16OMG is an amazing, once in a milennia talent, we all get that. But to say that Iowa won't be able to hit him square based on what he's done against teams like UMass, Bowling Green, and Notre Dame (hint - they're all really bad teams) doesn't make a whole lot of sense either. Michigan has played tomato cans to this point in the season, and those tomato cans don't have the level of player on the defensive side of the ball that MSU and Iowa will bring to the table.

 

[iowahawkeyes89]

Keyword for Michigan week is... CONTAIN

He's going to get some nice runs, the key will be not letting he break a 50 yarder for a touchdown.

People remember last year in Kinnick when we couldn't stop him, fortunately he threw a pick.

I still think this will be our biggest challenge defensively all year. (even more than Pryor)

 

[Section136]

Michigan St isn't a whole lot different schematically from Iowa though folks. Michigan is preparing for much of what they'll do against Iowa and they get to practice it Live a week before.

Michigan State switched to mostly a 3-4 defense this year. Michigan will not be facing the same thing 2 weeks in a row.

 

[CAARHawk]

It will take an amazingly disciplined job by our D-Linemen and also it will take a lot of patience in the playing bend, but don't break. Might have to give up some long drives and let the shortened field help put the breaks on the defense.

So the key might be to trade field goals for touchdowns. Really, the way to beat Michigan is to keep the ball for long drives and get TD's and limit their big plays.

The key is for the defensive front seven to not try to make the huge play, but to limit the big lanes for Robinson to run through. It is not like this guy is making any fantastic first moves. He is basically waiting for a big hole to develop and then has the speed to exploit that hole.

 

[zhawkzrule]

Michigan State switched to mostly a 3-4 defense this year. Michigan will not be facing the same thing 2 weeks in a row.

Agree with this, they mostly run a 3-4 and blitz much more than we would so its completely two different types of Defenses. As is known, our D is vanilla, we dont disquise our coverage or blitzes, man up and try to beat us.

 

[CAARHawk]

Also, after watching these videos, one thing is evident. This guy throws like a high school QB. His longer completions are merely when someone blows an assignment and some guy gets wide open on a midrange pass and makes a bunch of YAC.

His throws to the sideline stay in the air far too long and although he throws with zip, his arm is not strong. So it gets out with quick, but loses speed in the air. Basically a pick waiting to happen.

Again, the name of the game is convert on O and stay really patient on D.

One more thing. RR has taught these guys to cut block really well, particularly the backs and receivers. You need to work on beating cut blocks in the next couple of weeks.

 

[yaman3]

Also, after watching these videos, one thing is evident. This guy throws like a high school QB. His longer completions are merely when someone blows an assignment and some guy gets wide open on a midrange pass and makes a bunch of YAC.

His throws to the sideline stay in the air far too long and although he throws with zip, his arm is not strong. So it gets out with quick, but loses speed in the air. Basically a pick waiting to happen.

Again, the name of the game is convert on O and stay really patient on D.

One more thing. RR has taught these guys to cut block really well, particularly the backs and receivers. You need to work on beating cut blocks in the next couple of weeks.

The first part of that is incorrect. He has made plenty of throws that were tough throughs. Sure some of the deep throw down the sideline are missed assignments but why do you think that is? You have to stop him with the front 7. If you can do that, you will be fine. If you have to have the safeties wrorying about him, that is when he can go off in terms of throwing the ball. Also, HS QBs typically wouldn't be third in the nation in passer rating.

 

[Hawksel]

Notre Dame actually did a pretty good job defending against Michigan, and I would argue that defensively that they are the closest to what we are defensively that Michigan has played so far. (Our line and overall secondary is better, the Irish arguably have better linebackers.)

The reason Notre Dame lost to Michigan is that their quarterback got hurt in the first half and Notre Dame got down by two touchdowns-- also, the new golden boy ND coach made a stupid decision not to kick a field goal before half time. Even with that, though, they still probably should have won that game. I thought it was funny that a lot of the same illegal holding and chop blocking that Michigan did against Indiana without pentalty got called against Notre Dame. I wonder why?

Also, Indiana's defense makes me cry. Their secondary may be worse than Michigan's, and that's saying something.

I'm actually really looking forward to the Michigan game since it is such a contrast in styles. If our defense plays bend but don't break and our offense asserts itself I like our chances.

 

[yaman3]

Notre Dame actually did a pretty good job defending against Michigan, and I would argue that defensively that they are the closest to what we are defensively that Michigan has played so far. (Our line and overall secondary is better, the Irish arguably have better linebackers.)

The reason Notre Dame lost to Michigan is that their quarterback got hurt in the first half and Notre Dame got down by two touchdowns-- also, the new golden boy ND coach made a stupid decision not to kick a field goal before half time. Even with that, though, they still probably should have won that game. I thought it was a funny that a lot of the same illegal holding and chop blocking that Michigan did against Indiana got called against Notre Dame. I wonder why?

Also, Indiana's defense makes me cry. Their secondary may be worse than Michigan's, and that's saying something.

I'm actually really looking forward to the Michigan game since it is such a contrast in styles. If our defense plays bend but don't break and our offense asserts itself I like our chances.

Go back and look at the whole ND game. Look at Michigans DT, Mike Martin. He was held all game. I think it was 95% of the plays. Craig Roh was held a lot too. That game was terribly officiated all around.

 

[PeoriaHWKI]

Mr. Robinson is going to get a scary surprise when he cuts back into Mr. Clayborn!

 

[remohawk]

The key here isn't stopping them altogether, let them have the yards, just don't give up the points. With the sieve for a defense they have if we can get a couple stops and hold them to 3 a few times we'll be in good shape. Now if we can contain him and really get to him then it will turn into a blowout.

 

[DuffMan]

Let's say this scenerio plays out. Michigan looks impressive against State and wins by 10+. We move up 1 spot in our bye week to #14 and Michigan jumps us to #13.

We put on an absolutely dominate defensive performance. Holding them to under 300 total yards (under 150 rushing) and winning like 31-10 at the Big House. How far does that propel us up the rankings?

I think if Arizona is still unbeaten (good chance) it'd move us back into the top 10. Possible into the top 8 if a few teams lose.

I'm not sure why our rating matters at this point?

 

[thejumper5]

I think a good way to view Robinson is to see him as a passing running back, rather than a running quarterback. He reminds me of Eric Crouch in this way. His first priority is to run (and he will kill you with his feet), but if you let him pass easily, he can kill you that way too. I think putting Clayborn and/or Hunter as spies and putting pretty much everyone else in coverage/containment will maximize potential for turnovers, which is likely the key to victory. TOP is important, but Michigan can score really quickly; I think turnovers will be the key.

 

[yaman3]

I think a good way to view Robinson is to see him as a passing running back, rather than a running quarterback. He reminds me of Eric Crouch in this way. His first priority is to run (and he will kill you with his feet), but if you let him pass easily, he can kill you that way too. I think putting Clayborn and/or Hunter as spies and putting pretty much everyone else in coverage/containment will maximize potential for turnovers, which is likely the key to victory. TOP is important, but Michigan can score really quickly; I think turnovers will be the key.

TOP is a useless stat. Look at ISU last week and Michigan alst week. Michigan had the ball for 19 mins. WIll that work out the same against Iowa? Probably not, but the stat itself is flawed in many ways.

 

[bws258]

He must be punished every time he decides to keep the ball himself ... PUNISHED!

 

[DuffMan]

I've only watched the first two games but there are lots of occasions on which he got popped pretty hard. In fact he even added to his hit total a couple of times running out in front of a RB and throwing blocks on linebackers and safeties. That being said I don't buy the argument that he can't hold up to a B10 season. Lot's backs in this league carry the ball 20+ times a game and make it through relatively unscathed.

 

[yaman3]

I've only watched the first two games but there are lots of occasions on which he got popped pretty hard. In fact he even added to his hit total a couple of times running out in front of a RB and throwing blocks on linebackers and safeties. That being said I don't buy the argument that he can't hold up to a B10 season. Lot's backs in this league carry the ball 20+ times a game and make it through relatively unscathed.

I disagree. I think he will miss at least one game. Hopefully it's Purdue or Illinois. He isn't all that small, about 190. It's not like Tate last year rolling in at 170 lbs but he still takes too many little bumps and hits.

 

[homes]

Also, after watching these videos, one thing is evident. This guy throws like a high school QB. His longer completions are merely when someone blows an assignment and some guy gets wide open on a midrange pass and makes a bunch of YAC.

His throws to the sideline stay in the air far too long and although he throws with zip, his arm is not strong. So it gets out with quick, but loses speed in the air. Basically a pick waiting to happen.

Again, the name of the game is convert on O and stay really patient on D.

One more thing. RR has taught these guys to cut block really well, particularly the backs and receivers. You need to work on beating cut blocks in the next couple of weeks.

GT was known for its cut blocking as well, so the Hawks have had experience with this, which should help them. Robinson is scary good. Allow him to get his 3-5 yards, keep him from breaking long ones.

I don't think Iowa is going to knock him out of the game, but a few hard tackles in the first half can make him think about getting hit in the 3rd and 4th quarters. It may slow him by a half step or make him hold the ball in the running back's gut just a twitch longer, all of which can make a difference.