Scoop on Hubbard

DuffMan

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I have been fairly keyed into the Hubbard situation from the get go and thought I would share some of it with you guys. As I’ve read in previous threads, if Hubbard left for any reason other than he didn’t feel comfortable in Iowa City it was the best kept secret in the history of Iowa sports. Evidently it was.

As most of you know the recruitment of Hubbard was unique. Also unique were the conditions of the scholarship offer. Before Iowa would allow Hubbard a spot on the team he had to agree to a long list of rules, in some cases specific only to him. These rules ran from obvious, no drugs of any sort, to the mundane he had to perform well in school, couldn’t hang out in bars, or be out and about at all hours of the night. In order for Hubbard to remain in good standing with the team he had to have 100% compliance with the rules set in place.

Now I don’t have first hand knowledge of the rule that he ran afoul of but I can say with near 100% certainty he did break one of his “conditions of employment”, so to speak. I do know what Hubbard did to run afoul of the program won’t appear in any police blotters or in any of the papers. I can also say that if another player had been guilty of the same thing the penalty might have been as small as an *** chewing, or a little mandatory off season conditioning. However Hubbard wasn’t just “another player”, he was unique. I doubt we will ever know for certain the infraction Hubbard was guilty of, and I doubt Iowa’s story on the matter will ever change, but I am 100% certain that what I’ve told you is correct.

This chain of events also makes perfect sense when you look at Iowa’s athletic departments actions in the matter. As Hubbard had already assigned his LOI and enrolled Iowa could not retract the scholarship offer for the 2011-2012 academic year. However they could tell Hubbard in no uncertain terms that he would not be allowed practice, travel, or live with any members of the team. In essence he would be dead to them and his scholarship would not be renewed the following year effectively ending his college career.

His other option would be to leave the team voluntarily and not be a distraction. In exchange for that Iowa agreed to give him a full release and would agree not to make public the details of his departure or bad mouth him to members of the media or possible suitors.

When viewed in it’s entirety everything fits, including the wording of Hubbard’s release in which he said he would work with his Juco coach and his family in an attempt to find a fit that was perhaps closer to home.

Sorry for the delay on this, I really hoped to have more details on the situation, but it’s become apparent that no further information will likely come to light in the near future.
 
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I posted the day he left that I knew his scholarship came with a set of conditions. Set up by people other than Caff. This really shouldn't surprise anyone. Do you think Ms. Mason was going to let an ex-felon go around drinking in the IA City bars? Of course there were conditions and like I said originally, it's pretty obvious Hubbard broke one of them.
 
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Thanks, Duffman. That (sort of) clears it up. From what you know, was the "violation" a deliberate act or more accidental? (Although if there were all sorts of conditions set for him and he was fully aware of them, probably any action contrary to a particular condition could be viewed as deliberate, even if unintended.)
 
If there were that many restrictions and conditions on him staying on scholarship and with the program, it's not worth the risk for the UI (or for him), i.e., it's destined for failure, and leaves a black eye for everyone. Conduct that would result in an ***-chewing to another player but results in him being kicked off the team - what's the point of that - conduct is conduct - it shouldn't have been set up differently for him compared to the other players. They vetted him, and determined he was worthy of a scholarship - leave it at that. Adding conditions to his scholarship was a bad move. Sounds like some institutional bs contrived by someone who has never worked in the real world (where they expect results) - thank you Ghostbusters.
 
Why bring someone in under those conditions to begin with?
Looks like a big waste of everyone's time.
 
If there were that many restrictions and conditions on him staying on scholarship and with the program, it's not worth the risk for the UI (or for him), i.e., it's destined for failure, and leaves a black eye for everyone. Conduct that would result in an ***-chewing to another player but results in him being kicked off the team - what's the point of that - conduct is conduct - it shouldn't have been set up differently for him compared to the other players. They vetted him, and determined he was worthy of a scholarship - leave it at that. Adding conditions to his scholarship was a bad move. Sounds like some institutional bs contrived by someone who has never worked in the real world (where they expect results) - thank you Ghostbusters.

I totally agree with your post. Why bring him here if there is going to be all of these extra conditions that other players don't have. As long as the kid is not getting arrested or something similar to that then what is the problem? If you are going to give a player a chance then give him a real chance not strings attached situation.

I think in this instance the University comes off looking worse than the player. They brought him in then put hidden conditions on his scholarship that other players don't have, then kicked him off with no explanation and tried to make it look like he simply wanted to play somewhere closer to home. If they didn't want him here they should have told the coach right from the start.
 
Jack I appreciate the sentiment but could you reduce the size of the picture in your post? It appears to be distoring the way the page loads.
 
Blasted gremlins. Can't edit the post. This has happened before, and usually after a while, things straighten out. Will pitifully attempt to correct the situation. The sentiment remains however, excellent post, Duffman.
 
Success.....Nobody needs to drink that much Scotch. Here you go, Duff.....

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I will jump in on this one. If this is indeed the case and he had special conditions then I will say shame on Iowa for even going down this road. Nothing good would have ever come from this. I think Fran is the right guy to turn things around but you don't go down this road and put together special or unique circumstances for players.

Seriously if what he did gets him booted from the team and any other player a a$$ Chewing and or a conditioning program. All I will say to this better be a a huge a$$ wake up call. I mean really? Wow!!
 
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Post makes sense and sounds logical.
I however, don't think it gives Iowa a black eye at all. In fact I say it shows that Iowa will walk the walk and not look the other way even when they could.
We set guidelines, the recruit couldn't handle it, we said sayonnora.
I say good for us.
 
I will jump in on this one. If this is indeed the case and he had special conditions then I will say shame on Iowa for even going down this road. Nothing good would have ever come from this. I think Fran is the right guy to turn things around but you don't go down this road and put together special or unique circumstances for players.

Seriously if what he did gets him booted from the team and any other player a a$$ Chewing and or a conditioning program. All I will say to this better be a a huge a$$ wake up call. I mean really? Wow!!

Hubbard was getting a final chance. I would expect that every other school recruiting Hubbard gave him the same set(or similar) of conditions. It's to be expected. Hell, if there were no conditions and then all of a sudden Hubbard got drunk as **** in Brothers one night and beat the hell out of two cops, people would be screaming "why was an ex-felon allowed to be in a bar anyway?"

Hubbard absolutely knew that he was being given a final chance and these were the conditions that he would have to agree to for that final chance to be given. It's a shame that he apparently didn't take the conditions seriously.
 
I find it no surprise whatsoever that he had special, unique conditions applied to his scholarship. In fact, I just assumed that was the case. It's no different than a business deal. If you enter into a potentially risky deal, you make sure there are ample and easily executable clauses for getting out of the deal if doesn't go EXACTLY as you need it to. Why enter into such a deal? Because if it does go right the potential payoff is big.

A school giving a second chance to an ex-felon enters into a risky proposition. If that athlete runs afoul of the law (even in small part) the school and coach WILL get blasted for "making such a stupid move". About the only way a school can mitigate that risk is to tell the athlete "If you stray from the straight and narrow in ANY way, you're done." If the person doesn't live up to the small expectations in said contract, the potential that they will fail to live up to the large expectations is magnified. And just like in a business contract you invoke an exit clause and get out of the way of that potential bullet. It's simple risk management.

Yes, we're talking about people and I realize that applying a business analogy objectifies and oversimplifies. But it doesn't mean it's not accurate.
 
Logical assumptions duff. I felt from the very beginning that it was grades or some other rule violation. The U jettisoned this guy way to fast for it to be about home sickness or team chemistry. Both of those excuses are laughable.
 

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