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iloveyoularrystation
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wow
Northside Hawk
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When i saw the thread title I thought, honest to God, that they were going to forfeit the season finale at Penn State and not make the trip.
kameltoez102
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How much no longer is Rutgers realistically going to be a part of the Big10? I am giving it less than 5 years
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DDThompson
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if they're not even going to try ... then kick them out before full tv revenue the better.
delaney a swing-and-miss on this one
delaney a swing-and-miss on this one
hawkeyebob62
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They all but DID do that.
hawkeyebob62
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I say get the last four additions out. Then look HARD at who they really want to add and WHY. If everyone is so hot to add ND, fine, but tell them they are all in, or not. And if "not", then it goes for their hockey team, too.
I hope to hell Kevin Warren has a bit less "patience" than Delaney.
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DDThompson
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I'd be okay with NJ and MD going. I thought they were trying to get Virginia to follow Maryland and ask some basketball muscle. Those two may have helped pull in ND. Syracuse would have been better a get than NJ.
Nebraska might decide the BigXII is a greener pasture after all and leave on their own ... so hometown hero Frost doesn't have to change his scheme to the Big10.
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DDThompson
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Iowa has broken the tie with Maryland, passed Rutgers, and is now tied with TCU for college football wins. Stanford is next up the list plus 3 in wins.
iloveyoularrystation
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So as deace mentioned on a podcast several weeks back, for those of you trying to dump rutgers out of the big ten. As much of a dumpster fire as Rutgers is, realize this....Nebraska brings less to the big ten then Rutgers. You could actually make a better argument nebby has no business being in the league. That's how bad nebby is, cause Rutgers is ridiculous bad.
HawkeyeDenis
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That's a wow article. Even Urban couldn't bring Rutgers to relevance. They are an embarrassment to the Big Ten. They should drop down a level or two if they aren't going to do what it takes to compete at this level.
Rutgers has been in the B1G long enough to start getting the big checks for $30+ per year. If you want to compete, you have to do what every other team in the conference has done. Upgrade your facilities to be second to none. Rutgers is in a rich recruiting area, but how many student athletes are going to go to a school with sub standard facilities just so they can be close to home?
Out of all the shutouts in the B1G in the last 5 years, Rutgers has the vast majority of them. This year alone has been a record number of shutouts on them. They should do the B1G a favor an drop football.
Rutgers has been in the B1G long enough to start getting the big checks for $30+ per year. If you want to compete, you have to do what every other team in the conference has done. Upgrade your facilities to be second to none. Rutgers is in a rich recruiting area, but how many student athletes are going to go to a school with sub standard facilities just so they can be close to home?
Out of all the shutouts in the B1G in the last 5 years, Rutgers has the vast majority of them. This year alone has been a record number of shutouts on them. They should do the B1G a favor an drop football.
MoseSchrute
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Nobody will leave voluntarily. Because the money is way too good.
Fryowa
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Exactly. And in addition to that, when was the last time a team got kicked out of a conference for sucking at football?
Rutgers is here to stay.
eyekwah
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Iowa was Rutgers at the end of 1978. Seventeen in a row non-winning seasons will do that. Among the academics there was a distaste for the athletic department and preferred Iowa join the U of Chicago in dropping football. Fortunately Bump Elliot who had taken over as AD made a great hire in Hayden Fry otherwise there might not be a Big Ten member named Iowa.
ssckelley
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It’s all about TV sets paying for BTN. No way Rutgers gets kicked with that huge TV market. If anyone should be kicked it should be Nebraska. They were brought here for their prestige in football and now that’s gone. They don’t have the TV sets in Nebraska to pay for themselves when their football team sucks.
Yes, if sucking at football was going to get you kicked out then jNW would have been kicked out long ago before Barnett was able to get then off flat lining. NW was terrible for 25 years, I mean not even competitive.
Iowa had those 17 non winning seasons but they would at least win a few games a year even to having one or two .500 seasons. NW was terrible at football and bball for a long time. But they fit the Big Ten academic model better than most.
Northside Hawk
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You mentioned the key name. Bump Elliott. He also hired Lute Olsen and Dan Gable. The friction between academic leaders and athletics at Iowa from 1965-75 was real. Ugly incidents, like African American football players threatening to boycott practice, didn't help either.
If we didn't have Bump Elliott at that time and place who knows what would have happened to Iowa athletics. Who knows what would have been cut out of the budget. Who knows if two generations of sports fans would still be pining for the glory days of the 1950's.
Interestingly Barry Alvarez walked into a similar situation in 1990, and had to clean up a nearly equal sized mess at Wisconsin. And not just with the football team.
kameltoez102
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The thing that stands out to me though is if Rutgers isn't investing back into the program, which from the way it sounds they had no commitment to do so. If they are receiving money from the Conference I would think the conference would have a little bit of say in what they are doing to improve the program.
Northwestern has added a very nice facility recently and some other programs that have typically been lower half of the conference have done so as well. Those programs don't have an issue improving the facilities to make them more competitive nationally. Would the Big 10 step in and give Rutgers an ultimatum?
Northwestern has added a very nice facility recently and some other programs that have typically been lower half of the conference have done so as well. Those programs don't have an issue improving the facilities to make them more competitive nationally. Would the Big 10 step in and give Rutgers an ultimatum?
