Ron Sanyo in the HOF. **** yes.
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bcl20
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"YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS"
I imagine it would have been something like that.
HawkForce
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Yes!!!! Pretty sad
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DwayneTwill
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It's a completely different group of voters. They had to change the rules in order for him to get in. Not that he deserved it.
bcl20
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Defend your stance please.
bcl20
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Santo had a better WAR than both Ernie Banks and Billy Williams. It's comparable to or better than other players considered to be hall of fame level like, Manny Ramirez, Gary Carter, Ozzie Smith, Home Run Baker, Roberto Alomar, Bob Feller, Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa to name a few. He's easily in the top 10 for third basemen all time. To say he doesn't deserve the hall of fame is wrong.
bighawkeyedaddy
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Someone give me a break down of stats and why he deserved to be in the Hall. Not flaming, just wondering what he did that deserves HOF status and am too lazy to look up myself.
DeputyHawk
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Congrats to Ronny and his family! All of us Cubs fans will enjoy this one for ya Ron!
bcl20
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This is Bill James talking about why Santo should be in the hof (obviously he will be now) but it's a very strong case.
6-4-2 — an Angels/Dodgers double play blog: Ron Santo Passes, And Bill James On Why He Should Be In The Hall Of Fame
DeputyHawk
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Great article. Thank you for posting this.
bws258
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My thoughts exactly. I would decline to attend the ceremony, or take the opportunity to tell the BBWAA and veteran's committee to all got to hell for screwing Ronny while he was still alive.
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bws258
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death didn't change their votes ... rather the continual retardedness of the veterans committee forced the HOF / Baseball to change to change the system
bws258
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go away redturd
Cover3
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Final paragraph of the Bill James letter in that article is LEGENDARY:
"Look, certain things just do not happen. Rivers do not run uphill, iron does not become gold, time does not go backward, whores do not become virgins, pigs do not give birth to lions, supermodels do not marry auto mechanics, and politicians do not forget about the next election. There is no alchemy by which the Hall of Fame may become what it never has been. Ron Santo towers far above the real standard of the Hall of Fame."
"Look, certain things just do not happen. Rivers do not run uphill, iron does not become gold, time does not go backward, whores do not become virgins, pigs do not give birth to lions, supermodels do not marry auto mechanics, and politicians do not forget about the next election. There is no alchemy by which the Hall of Fame may become what it never has been. Ron Santo towers far above the real standard of the Hall of Fame."
twinlaker
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Somebody mentioned Ron as a great ambassador for baseball, which he most certainly was! The Call to the Hall can, and should be, about more than just what an individual did on the field. What Ron accomplished after his playing days were over, was just as significant in regards to contributing to MLB as was his play on the diamond.
Combine these two facets of his MLB career, and he is a shoo in. Just so sad he wasn't around to enjoy this well deserved honor.
Combine these two facets of his MLB career, and he is a shoo in. Just so sad he wasn't around to enjoy this well deserved honor.
Churlish79
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..I hope you aren't referring to his broadcast days.
twinlaker
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Nobody is going to say Ron was a Vin Scully or Bob Costas in the booth. However, he was a fan's kind of announcer - passionate, live and die on every play, etc. He was, to use the cliche "a man of the people". The average Joe could relate to him, and he was beloved in the Cub community and throughout MLB.
Churlish79
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Even with Cubs colored glasses, I have friends that openly admit Ron Santo was the worst color commentary they'd ever heard.
It's nice and all that's how you think about Ron in the booth. But I know MANY Cubs fans who felt otherwise. And if you include that as a reason for helping him into the Hall of Fame, I don't think you are being honest about it.
He got in for his numbers which were pretty damn good.. and aided by the changes in selection.. and such a weak class entering the voting this year. His broadcasting had nothing at all to do with it.
woodyk1
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His community service and work with juvenile diabetes also helped (and some folks might think that should not help his case). When humans are voting, they may take that into account. Also, the fact that he played baseball with diabetes in an era when almost no one talked about it may have also factored in.
I would not say he is a HOF broadcaster. But, his work in that field along with everything else on and off the field put together made him a HOFer. That is in my opinion, of course.
