Rhabdo at Nebby
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iloveyoularrystation
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ah you beat me too it, just was going to post it. Glad for the students its not as massive as our case was. Praying for the two young men that they have a full recovery i know most of our guys were never the same again. Several didn't reach their full potential because of the damage caused. Crappy situation in Hawk history, now nebby knows what its like.
MoseSchrute
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No more Smiley Mike Riley fun time workouts.
WinOneThisCentury
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They need to fire Scott Frost now...this is unacceptable. He's putting winning over his player's health. Just getting in the dig to those who wanted blood when it happened at Iowa. I have no doubt Scott Frost cares about his players...this is still something that is related to more than just the workout. Supplements/diets are also part of this and I'm not sure they understand it all.
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DDThompson
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Hawkgold will be all over this. For years.
Or not.
if he does Iowa will have to be mentioned.
Or not.
if he does Iowa will have to be mentioned.
HawkGold
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Nice try. We'll see if Nebby gives out a 1/13th award. The bigger issue (rhabdo was big) was the award. Sorry you can't see that.
But the award was really meaningless, right? There wasn't a contract extension, there wasn't a huge lump-sum of money (to my knowledge). Was it just KF saying, "You have done great work for a decade, you made a mistake, we still love you?" Bad PR perhaps, but is it a problem in a grander sense?
Or was it, "Thanks for taking the blame on this one after I directed you to send a message to the players?"
I am not debating that the rhabdo was a big deal, and there was some negligence involved (I would argue ordinary negligence, not gross). Just curious why you think the award is so bad?
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DDThompson
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No. It worked. To a “T”
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DDThompson
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real possibilities are little man syndrome and/or professional jealousy = “the bigger issue was the award”
lightning1
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A Soph that I coached in AAU, got rhabdo at a Prep Hoops showcase. It was really strange. He was going through the stretches and warm ups and said his hamstrings were hurting him. When they started doing drills he had to quit. By the time he got back home, they took him to the ER and admitted him for rhabdo. Nothing in the stretches or drills were strenuous. He wasn't even 30 minutes into the session. He claimed that he had been drinking fluids the day before and he wasn't a gym rat type of kid.
HawkGold
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Sorry to hurt your gold colored glasses. Give me a reason why you think the award was done at that point in time?
HawkGold
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The stretches are what release the harmful fluids from the muscle fibers.
HawkGold
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Because I've worked around universities enough to know how they work. They should have taken responsibility, made changes and moved on. It was a statement. It was the mild workout following that was the problem. Think about if it were your kid and the persons responsible then got a new award.
lightning1
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I get it but he stretched before every practice and every game.
HawkGold
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It's the excess junk that comes out after a particularly rigorous workout that breaks down muscle. It's the rapid release and flushing into the kidneys. It's not the stretching and not the harsh workout. It's the combination combined with dehydration.
Like during a drought when soil acidity builds up and tests high. Right conditions release it when it finally rains.
Likely the department just didn't know enough about it. It was a pretty rigorous work out.
I guess I see it as bad PR, but not a sign that something insidious lies beneath the surface of Iowa football. Are you implying that it is a sign that the football program did not take it seriously, or that they are not willing to change tactics?
There has been no rhabdo since, but of course that is a bit of a silly measure considering how extremely rare these instances are.
If I were a parent of a child affected, my perception would be strongly colored by my child's perceptions of the involved coaches and the incident, so that it hard to speak to in a vacuum.
lightning1
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I know all of that. He didn't perform a rigorous workout. 30 minutes of stretching and a few basketball drills does not = rigorous workout. This is a kid that plays basketball year round. 30 minutes in, his hamstrings wouldn't let him run. An hour after that he could not walk. He had to be carried from the car. There were 100 kids at this workout. He was the only one that had any problems. My son went through the workout. He didn't even have sore muscles.It's the excess junk that comes out after a particularly rigorous workout that breaks down muscle. It's the rapid release and flushing into the kidneys. It's not the stretching and not the harsh workout. It's the combination combined with dehydration.
Like during a drought when soil acidity builds up and tests high. Right conditions release it when it finally rains.
Likely the department just didn't know enough about it. It was a pretty rigorous work out.
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HawkGold
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Fluid levels. I have a kid with a bleeding disorder that would be more susceptible. it's just hard to figure. Wonder if having 13 get it is harder to explain.
