Regarding that Stellar Hawkeye Defense!

Not4cy

Well-Known Member
Jon Miller wrote an article about the Iowa Defense last week. Jon made some very good points regarding the Hawkeye Defense and how the defense has won many games in the Kirk Ferentz era. It has definitely been the defense that has won most of the big games, not the offense. Jon points out many statistics in the article including points per game allowed. Iowa's defense over an entire season doesn't give up many points per game and we rank pretty high every year in total defense.

But for some reason, at least this season, our defense FAILS miserably when the game is on the line in the final drive and we need a big stop. We couldn't stop Arizona's final drive, Wisconsin, Indiana or Northwestern. Against NW, we gave up an 85 yard drive for a TD and then a 91 yard drive for a TD to end the game. Jon Miller, great defense's don't give up TD's when the game is on the line in the 4th quarter. Time and time again, we play 6-10 yards off of WR's instead of jamming them at the line and they march all the way down the field for a TD. We can't even hold teams to FG's on the final drive anymore.

Jon Miller also states that Iowa usually makes a defense use 8-12 plays to score a TD and that is a sign of a good defense. I couldn't disagree more. When you allow a team like Northwestern to use 10 plays to score a TD, that burns up a defense. Period. Our defense was gassed at the end of the game. We got zero pressure on Persa because they were on the field for several plays in NW's 2nd to last drive. When you play off 10 yards from a WR, that is playing in the hands of NW and Indiana. Both of those teams are ball controlled offense's like Iowa's except they both use short passing plays almost like running plays. You have to jam WR's at the line of scrimmage to get QB's like Persa and Chappell out of their rhythm but for some reason our 4 million dollar coach can't understand that. He absolutely refuses to change.

Yes. Giving up only 21 points with the offense that we have should be enough to win the game. Jon Miller, stats don't always tell the whole story. Good defenses don't give up game winning drives over and over again. And when OSU beats us on a last minute drive this Saturday, our defense will have gone 0-5 in crunch time.

I am not calling for Kirk Ferentz's job at all. What he has done at Iowa is nothing short of amazing. But at $4 million per year, losing to Northwestern 5 out of 6 times is inexcusable. PERIOD!
 




Iowa's defense is designed to keep Iowa in the game and not lose a game. It is not designed to win a game. It predicates on the opponent making a mistake. If the opponent doesn't make a mistake. Lights out.

Going back to 2008:

Iowa ties the game against ILL and kicks off, ILL slowly dinks down the field and wins on a FG

Purdue wears Iowa's defense out in the 4th quarter. If not for a poor pass from Purdue down by the endzone it would have been Iowa who was behind in the final minutes looking to score instead of Purdue. Even then, Purdue ran out of time. Iowa didn't stop them, the clock did and unforced errors from Purdue did.

2009

UNI has to get 2 FGs blocked, clock only thing that stopped them from scoring a TD

Ark St like Purdue, clocked stopped them, not Iowa's defense

Michigan (see Ark St)

MSU converts a 3rd and a mile and scores in the final 2 minutes

Ohio St in OT backs up Iowa's offense, prevents even a FGA. Iowa gives up 5 yards and loses the game.

2010

Arizona, defense needs a stop and can't get it

Wisconsin, the only thing that stopped the Badgers in the 2nd half was their own mistakes, INT & bad snap

NW, enough said

Bottom line, this is a solid defense, sometimes very good. However when all the chips are on the table this defense, more times than not, will fail because it can't stop a team cold. It has to have a mistake.

But B10 championship defenses win games for you (OSU). Sometimes that means making a team go backward, or causing a huge turnover, or even scoring. Its very difficult, sometimes doesn't seem possible, but that's why they are great. Something Iowa's defense is very far from.
 




But at $4 million per year, losing to Northwestern 5 out of 6 times is inexcusable. PERIOD!

Legitimate points until the above. His salary has nothing to do with it, it harms the credibility of what you're trying to say.
 


Legitimate points until the above. His salary has nothing to do with it, it harms the credibility of what you're trying to say.

Do you believe the coach at Iowa should be the highest paid coach in the Big 10 conference? The coach at Iowa should never, ever make more than the coach at OSU. Iowa will never be on the same playing field as Ohio State. And if you are the highest paid coach in the Big 10 conference, then you should not be losing to Northwestern 5 out of 6 times. I think most Hawkeye fans can agree with that.
 


If you are the highest paid coach in the Big 10 conference, then you should not be losing to Northwestern 5 out of 6 times. I think most Hawkeye fans can agree with that.

Totally agree! It is only one day after the loss to NW (AGAIN!) and we are all still emotional and upset. But I really think that if you revisit this issue against NW and the questionable playcalling on both sides of the ball in a month, we will all still feel the same...UNACCEPTABLE!:mad:
 


I think we can all agree that Iowa has waaaay more talent and better players and simply a better team than the Northwestern's of the world. For some odd reason though, whether it be scheme's, coaching or something else, we have trouble beating teams like that. You look at what Wisconsin did to Indiana yesterday, now that's how you put it on a team who has inferior talent.
 


Do you believe the coach at Iowa should be the highest paid coach in the Big 10 conference? The coach at Iowa should never, ever make more than the coach at OSU. Iowa will never be on the same playing field as Ohio State. And if you are the highest paid coach in the Big 10 conference, then you should not be losing to Northwestern 5 out of 6 times. I think most Hawkeye fans can agree with that.

So, if he was the second highest paid coach then it would be okay, just not the highest? That's a joke, but I still don't get the criticism. Would you be more forgiving, or at least understanding, of his record against Northwestern if he was only the 7th or 8th ranked salary in the Big Ten? He gets paid for what he's done, and what value he's brought and still brings to the University, not as some sort of protection against bad losses, which this certainly was. It's really not a very effective argument, and comes off as petty to blast someone for the money they make.
 


So, if he was the second highest paid coach then it would be okay, just not the highest? That's a joke, but I still don't get the criticism. Would you be more forgiving, or at least understanding, of his record against Northwestern if he was only the 7th or 8th ranked salary in the Big Ten? He gets paid for what he's done, and what value he's brought and still brings to the University, not as some sort of protection against bad losses, which this certainly was. It's really not a very effective argument, and comes off as petty to blast someone for the money they make.

Look dude, the cash paying Ferentz isn't being carried by GarBar from the side of Mount Sinai, it is coming out of the pockets of the season ticket holders. Again, Fitz versus Ferentz:

2006 (throwing out noncon because Fitz got tossed into job with death of Walker right before season)
Iowa 2-6 big ten
NU 2-6 big ten

2007
Iowa 6-6
NU 6-6

2008
Iowa 9-4
NU 9-4

2009
Iowa 11-2
NU 8-5

2010 through this week
Iowa 7-3
NU 7-3

Head to head - Fitz 4, Ferentz 1

One set of fans is getting taken to the cleaners by their coach's ability to convince them that his services are some incredibly scarce commodity and one set of fans is getting a coach who absolutely loves his university and its fan base and is willing to bust his tail for less than 7 figures. I'll leave it to you guess which is which.

But I guess at the end of the day those two blocked FGs that helped spring Ferentz to his second ever undefeated September were all about good coaching.
 




Look dude, the cash paying Ferentz isn't being carried by GarBar from the side of Mount Sinai, it is coming out of the pockets of the season ticket holders. Again, Fitz versus Ferentz:

2006 (throwing out noncon because Fitz got tossed into job with death of Walker right before season)
Iowa 2-6 big ten
NU 2-6 big ten

2007
Iowa 6-6
NU 6-6

2008
Iowa 9-4
NU 9-4

2009
Iowa 11-2
NU 8-5

2010 through this week
Iowa 7-3
NU 7-3

Head to head - Fitz 4, Ferentz 1

One set of fans is getting taken to the cleaners by their coach's ability to convince them that his services are some incredibly scarce commodity and one set of fans is getting a coach who absolutely loves his university and its fan base and is willing to bust his tail for less than 7 figures. I'll leave it to you guess which is which.

But I guess at the end of the day those two blocked FGs that helped spring Ferentz to his second ever undefeated September were all about good coaching.

That's gonna leave a mark.

I'm curious...what exactly does an assistant coach have to do (or not do) at Iowa to at least feel the slightest tinge of a hot seat?
 






So, if he was the second highest paid coach then it would be okay, just not the highest? That's a joke, but I still don't get the criticism. Would you be more forgiving, or at least understanding, of his record against Northwestern if he was only the 7th or 8th ranked salary in the Big Ten? He gets paid for what he's done, and what value he's brought and still brings to the University, not as some sort of protection against bad losses, which this certainly was. It's really not a very effective argument, and comes off as petty to blast someone for the money they make.

I understand where the people who make that argument come from. I don't agree with it, but I get it. They expect to get what they pay for. Ferentz is paid top dollar, up there with Saban, Meyer, Stoops, etc. Fans expect a coach that is paid like the top dogs to beat the teams that have no business beating us.

Again, I don't agree with that, because I do believe Ferentz is the best fit for us. But that doesn't mean I think the argument is unreasonable, either. I just don't agree with it.
 


I love the defense to pieces...but when it comes down to it...the 2010 version...fails when the lights are on...a championship defense does not allow THREE teams to go 80+ yards when the game is on the line and score a game winning touchdown...a championship D steps up draws a line in the sand and says that's it....you're not getting a first down.
 








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