Recruiting gut feeling

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homerHAWKeye777

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My gut feeling is that the '12 recruiting class will still be a fine one.

However, I think that the source of some of the strength of the class might end up surprising folks. My impression is that the fact that guys from MD and MI have gone to Iowa and will likely soon be in a position to make a big impact ... I think that will really resonate with a bunch of guys who we're recruiting out of those states.

While our recruiting in some of our other "traditional" stomping grounds might be comparatively down because the squad didn't live up to expection in 2010 (winning games on the field leads to victories in the recruiting game too) ... I think the excitement surrounding guys like Carl Davis, Martin-Manley, Coker, Law, Lomax, and Cooper ... I think that excitement will prove to be a catalyst to our recruiting.

And, what is cool is that if the young men take their football seriously ... it will likely help Iowa more in the recruiting game (particularly with other city kids).
 
Homer, since you are kind of the recruiting guru, how large will the class of 2012 be?
It should be smaller than last year, but how much smaller? Are we talking around 10, 15 or will it be closer to 20?
 
I agree with you, and I for one am getting anxious. Especially as I continue to see kids picking Michigan (they have 12 freaking commits- all highly rated) and many more of Iowa's top targets picking other schools or eliminating Iowa as an option. I hope we get some commits soon, and hopefully some on the top of the list.

Needs:
OT-2 of them (Would love to land Pirsig)
OG-1, always need competition, though I like our last class here
C- Boehm or Darlington would be great! ( a miss and Blythe could be a center)
QB- Always need 1 per class IMO
RB- 2 (We always need 2 and Mahone from OH would be a great get IMO)
WR-3 (Darboh would be awesome and then a speedster with cutting ability would be awesome)
TE - would take 1, but with the last class, not a necessity

DE- 1 or 2. 2 if they're really good. I like Faith Ekakite and Moore out of Dematha
DT- 2 Iowa in on a lot of them, and we need size and depth here
OLB-Always need 1 or 2
MLB-Always need 1
S- 1, with last class I think we just take one here. We have Law, Miller, Lomax, and I think Cole Fisher is going to play Safety.
CB-2. We need some depth here. Like what we have by Prater is gone, and when is the last time a highly recruited true corner came to Iowa?


These are just my thoughts, and there is still a few left open here, so plenty of wiggle room on positions.
 
Lazersharpe said:
Homer, since you are kind of the recruiting guru, how large will the class of 2012 be?
It should be smaller than last year, but how much smaller? Are we talking around 10, 15 or will it be closer to 20?
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expect close to 20 or more depending on early draft and transfers. Iowa filled up this year, but they could've added more, most likely some walk ons rewarded. I expect 20-22 (withpeople leaving)
 
uofihawkInation said:
Hawkfarmer, isnt Lomax going to be a CB or will he end up at safety? Otherwise I agree with the needs.
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My thought is that he is a Hyde like guy, but I always felt he would be a Safety. I don't really know though. I think he could play either, I just think if we got 2 more legit corners he could be a Safety, kind of like the Lowery/Hyde situation.
 
Lazersharpe said:
Homer, since you are kind of the recruiting guru, how large will the class of 2012 be?
It should be smaller than last year, but how much smaller? Are we talking around 10, 15 or will it be closer to 20?
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Initially, I would estimate that it will be in the ball-park of 17 to 19. However, just as hawkfarmer rightly pointed out, if we lose a guy or two early to the NFL ... then that number could potentially go a little north of 20.
 
hawkfarmer said:
I agree with you, and I for one am getting anxious. Especially as I continue to see kids picking Michigan (they have 12 freaking commits- all highly rated) and many more of Iowa's top targets picking other schools or eliminating Iowa as an option. I hope we get some commits soon, and hopefully some on the top of the list.
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I'd definitely like us to be landing more early commits. However, from a while back I already predicted that we wouldn't really see our first "wave" of commits until AFTER the summer camps. At that juncture we usually toss out a few extra offers and get guys to jump on board. Then, at that point, many other guys are already pretty comfortable with the coaches and they're pretty nervous about losing the offer ... so they then jump aboard too.

Also, I really like Keppy and I think that we'll do well in OL recruiting this year. That's the great thing about being a PROVEN producer of top-quality O-linemen.

Another thing is that we have A LOT of offers out to guys in Illinois and Missouri. Given the fact that we have 3-straight bowl victories, the fact that we've been playing a lot of TR FR lately, and the fact that PROXIMITY is one of the biggest driving factors in the recruiting game ... I can't help but feel that we'll still land a couple of quality recruits from our neighboring states.
 
hawkfarmer said:
Only 2, Grant and Blythe. had 5 more commit the last week of June. I just see kids flying off the board to Wisky and Michigan and get anxious. Like Homer said, it's no big deal right now.
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hawkfarmer -

Of course, Wisky gets to sell a Rose Bowl performance ... and that's on top of a thumping of the Buckeyes. And, they can also tout a head-to-head victory over the Hawks.

Michigan is Michigan ... and, on top of that, they get to sell the excitement of a new coach. Furthermore, they can tout even more about how the new coach is a "Michigan man."
 
homerHAWKeye777 said:
hawkfarmer -

Of course, Wisky gets to sell a Rose Bowl performance ... and that's on top of a thumping of the Buckeyes. And, they can also tout a head-to-head victory over the Hawks.

Michigan is Michigan ... and, on top of that, they get to sell the excitement of a new coach. Furthermore, they can tout even more about how the new coach is a "Michigan man."
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We dont typically fill up early. I'm not too excited about it, yet.
MICH has early playing time and its tradition to sell. They are thin at O-line, DL and DB
Wis has gotten off to a good start. They can also sell early playing time, at the positions they have commits for. They are thin at WR, QB and LB.
 
hawkfarmer said:
I agree with you, and I for one am getting anxious. Especially as I continue to see kids picking Michigan (they have 12 freaking commits- all highly rated) and many more of Iowa's top targets picking other schools or eliminating Iowa as an option. I hope we get some commits soon, and hopefully some on the top of the list.

Needs:
OT-2 of them (Would love to land Pirsig)
OG-1, always need competition, though I like our last class here
C- Boehm or Darlington would be great! ( a miss and Blythe could be a center)
QB- Always need 1 per class IMO
RB- 2 (We always need 2 and Mahone from OH would be a great get IMO)
WR-3 (Darboh would be awesome and then a speedster with cutting ability would be awesome)
TE - would take 1, but with the last class, not a necessity

DE- 1 or 2. 2 if they're really good. I like Faith Ekakite and Moore out of Dematha
DT- 2 Iowa in on a lot of them, and we need size and depth here
OLB-Always need 1 or 2
MLB-Always need 1
S- 1, with last class I think we just take one here. We have Law, Miller, Lomax, and I think Cole Fisher is going to play Safety.
CB-2. We need some depth here. Like what we have by Prater is gone, and when is the last time a highly recruited true corner came to Iowa?


These are just my thoughts, and there is still a few left open here, so plenty of wiggle room on positions.
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Cedric Everson, and we all know how that turned out.
 
hawkfarmer said:
CB-2. We need some depth here. Like what we have by Prater is gone, and when is the last time a highly recruited true corner came to Iowa?
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Iowa just landed Campbell and Lomax ... and I'm VERY happy about those guys AND they were both pretty highly regarded (albeit, not 4-star guys). I agree that we'll need to continue to add depth there though.

I think that Iowa will land 1 or 2 pretty talented guys at CB ... and I think that we'll be good to go. Lowery wasn't uber-hyped ... and after the 2011 season ... I think that Iowa fans will start wondering why not!

Another thing is this ... Iowa has been having increasing luck landing CBs into the NFL. You better believe that they will be using that as a selling point. Furthermore, they'll also be selling the opportunity to see early playing time too. If kids can get over the issue of "proximity" ... then I think that we'll see Iowa continue to have improved "luck" when it comes to CB recruiting.
 
homerHAWKeye777 said:
Iowa just landed Campbell and Lomax ... and I'm VERY happy about those guys AND they were both pretty highly regarded (albeit, not 4-star guys). I agree that we'll need to continue to add depth there though.

I think that Iowa will land 1 or 2 pretty talented guys at CB ... and I think that we'll be good to go. Lowery wasn't uber-hyped ... and after the 2011 season ... I think that Iowa fans will start wondering why not!
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Very true homer, but I was talking about 4 star guys I guess. I'm not saying we haven't had some really good corners (Spievey and Prater etc.) but just on hype. I'd like to see that prototypical guy.

I for one was hyped on Lowery last year, I think he'll be special, and no complaints about last years class. Do you think Lomax is a corner and not a safety, for some reason I had him pegged as a safety. I think it will be interesting to see how campbell develops, but i'm not sold on him as DB yet. Depth is key as it is at every position.
 
hawkfarmer said:
Very true homer, but I was talking about 4 star guys I guess. I'm not saying we haven't had some really good corners (Spievey and Prater etc.) but just on hype. I'd like to see that prototypical guy.

I for one was hyped on Lowery last year, I think he'll be special, and no complaints about last years class. Do you think Lomax is a corner and not a safety, for some reason I had him pegged as a safety. I think it will be interesting to see how campbell develops, but i'm not sold on him as DB yet. Depth is key as it is at every position.
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I see Lomax at CB ... the kid is fast and Iowa has a tendency of keeping speed at CB. While Iowa will give Bullock a shot at RB, I think that the coaches foresee him landing at safety.

As for depth at safety, if Hyde remains there, we'll still have Hyde, Miller, Sleeper, and Law there. We'll certainly have to recruit there because both Hyde and Sleeper will be SRs in '12 ... however, I still have a good feeling about the group.
 
Hey homer, with all of this stuff going on at tOSU, will we be able to capitalize and sneak an extra 2 or 3 from Ohio? I know we normally can nab a few that they didn't offer but now are we going to get a few extra?
 
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