The most ironic part of Sally Mason's dislike of athletics is that enrollment has been shown to be greatly affected by athletic success at universities & colleges in the US. Part of her mission is to grow enrollment, grow the university, use sports to help her achieve these missions, as sports are almost always the best way to "unite" school spirit and gather support for many many non athletic endeavors. This qualifies as not being able to see the forest thru the trees. Its ignorant beyond what I thought possible at the university level quite frankly.
Recruiting coordinators?
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Of course they'll want that money, they're already taking it.
They've always held the power and their own agenda. Supporting athletics is one of the best ways for them to achieve those agenda items. Its not one or the other. Its insanely ignorant for the University of Iowa administration to not care and not support athletics to the best of their ability. If you have athletics programs, it is the universities responsibility, in my opinion, to support them fully. If not, just shut them down.
I am a bit confused. Recruiting coordinators seem to be just another step in the "arms race" that has continued to define college football. I have seen what the race has done to high school sports, first hand...specialization, parents shelling out thousands of $'s for "camps" and "elite teams" that travel all over the place, kids who burn out before they even graduate from high school, weight rooms that are out of this world, artificial turf, large stadiums, booster clubs that raise thousands of $'s to support their athletic programs, high school coaches fired because they don't win enough games; the list goes on.
Look at Iowa's athletic facilities...my goodness! They are absolutely spectacular. And, others have actually surpassed what we have. So, why debate this issue of recruiting coordinators? We are already "all in" from middle school on up. We have only ourselves to blame; we demand elite, winning programs and professional, highly paid coaches; then when we don't win enough games, we demand that the head coach, the athletic director, and now, the college president, be dismissed. And then some of us complain loudly when yet another step is taken to improve recruiting for the Hawkeyes.
One more thing: I would like at least two concrete examples of Sally Mason not being supportive of the athletic programs at the University of Iowa. Honest question. I read the complaints, but never supporting evidence. In fact, not even sure I want/need her to be much involved in the athletic programs.
Look at Iowa's athletic facilities...my goodness! They are absolutely spectacular. And, others have actually surpassed what we have. So, why debate this issue of recruiting coordinators? We are already "all in" from middle school on up. We have only ourselves to blame; we demand elite, winning programs and professional, highly paid coaches; then when we don't win enough games, we demand that the head coach, the athletic director, and now, the college president, be dismissed. And then some of us complain loudly when yet another step is taken to improve recruiting for the Hawkeyes.
One more thing: I would like at least two concrete examples of Sally Mason not being supportive of the athletic programs at the University of Iowa. Honest question. I read the complaints, but never supporting evidence. In fact, not even sure I want/need her to be much involved in the athletic programs.
HawkeyeMHA
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I think the product you out on the field is one of the best recruiting tools you have. Hard to recruit no matter what you are doing (legally) if you are losing.
In case you havent noticed this is a issue we agree on
1977Hawkeye
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True, but it's hard to have a good team if you can't recruit. Just like it's hard to get a job without experience, but you can't get experience without a job.
It's the classic "chicken and the egg" debate.
I'm personally ok with that (not that I matter). If that did happen though, I wonder if the Bigten schools could service their athletic dept debt?
I'm not so sure overturning or modifying all or parts of the proposal is a zero chance proposition..........
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I dont agree the SEC is already the new D-1 if you look only at football I see why people are getting so wierid about it. But not overall. Big 10 and Big 12 are better BB conferences this year. As for could we service debt. We would become irrelivent if we left and just played each other. We wouldnt get as good of players and the BT Network ratings would FAALL
Nope.
This!!
hawkfan1319
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Watch the Pony Express. It's who pays the most. Those are the schools who get the best players.
If that's the case, I suspect Iowa and the Bigten will be forced to become what the SEC is (albeit an inferior imitation). One makes a deal with the devil with these facilities expansions and conference expansions.
Those "elite teams" were born out of necessity. My brother lives in a rural area and he coached one of "those" teams. He had kids coming from as far as 100 miles to play for him. They did it because it was a way to show case the kids from that area.
I had many talks with him about HS recruiting and how I was against it. He said the elite teams do not have that, because it is already the best couple of players from each team. Explained like that, I tend to agree with him, that is the way to go. It allows the best players from rural areas to form a team and compete against much much larger schools.
hawkeyebob62
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George O'Leary (UCF) speaks at our Kiwanis Club on occasion. His comment about texting and communicating: "It's not the parents, family or guardians I need to have a strong connection with, it's the girlfriend" He says kids don't talk on the phone anymore, they just text. As the parent of a 23-year old, he is spot-on.
My guess is that since carriers have gone to "unlimited-talk-and-text", it's no longer a barrier to schools with smaller budgets, which would include IT/phone/communication. Coaches and staff no longer need to submit expense reports detailing their text/call summaries, and it costs the same for Dumpster State as it does for U$C or O$U. Thus, in their infinite wisdom, the NCAA sees it as "fair".
Frankly, between the NCAA and our Federal government, it's difficult to say just which one is more corrupt and/or hypocritical and/or makes rules and laws that the entitiy, itself, doesn't even observe...
