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I re-watched the second half of the game with intentions of going back and doing the first half but it is painfully obvious that I do not need to do that. If any of you want to go back and do the same thing, don't pay any attention to the play, just watch the offensive line play between 68 and 77, La. Paulsen and Jackson. It is horrific. That is where the game was lost, right there. With reasonable and competent line play, we win this game. The "NFL left tackle Jackson" stuff can just stop.

1. Stanley played pretty well actually. He does not deserve the heat he is getting, as he was in the correct play and made the correct read pretty much every play. He made some great throws. He did miss a throw to Sargent that could have been a first down and he definitely should have thrown the ball away on one of the sacks. But the other sacks were not on him.
2. Goodson played really well and in my opinion did a better job picking up blitzes than Sargent. Young does a great job picking up blitzes too.
3. Out of 31 plays I charted (I did not do the last drive), La. Paulsen made 7 egregious errors. By this I mean he either completely whiffed on a block, allowed a free rusher, or committed a penalty. Jackson had 3. Levi Paulsen had 2 and Banwart had 1. Sargent had 1. Wieting had 1. That is nearly half the plays when we had a player that could not block someone. An offense cannot overcome egregious errors on 50% of their plays, no offense can.
4. Notice I didnt say anything about Wirfs or Linderbaum. They are elite. Michigan only tried to blitz Wirfs once and he picked it up perfectly. Linderbaum allowed nothing in the middle. Zero.
5. I really can't blame B. Ferentz a lot here either. It did appear that he abandoned the run too early, however, after the re-watch and realizing the situation, we found ourselves in extremely long yardage situations where we could not run. We were behind the chains the entire time.

So lets all hope that something happens on the left side of our line and we clean that up. But knowing that we are talking about 5th year seniors and a supposed NFL tackle, it is hard to be optimistic.
 
Good post and thank you for rewatching it. I have been saying bince Madison in 2017 that Stanley's bad games are a product of the line. Stanley ain't a world beater, but he is better than some of these bad games would indicate. The interior of Iowa's o-line has been really bad for a couple years. They have been totally lost on stunts, blitzes and against well-disguised 3-4 defenses where you don't know where the 4th rusher will come from.

My biggest concern is that outside of Goodson, we don't really have anyone great at TE or RB and those, along with the o-line, are the positions that win us games from mid-October through the end of November.
 
It’s diaappointing that the Paulsens have been in the program for 5 years and still can’t block competently.
 
dirtwrap said:
I re-watched the second half of the game with intentions of going back and doing the first half but it is painfully obvious that I do not need to do that. If any of you want to go back and do the same thing, don't pay any attention to the play, just watch the offensive line play between 68 and 77, La. Paulsen and Jackson. It is horrific. That is where the game was lost, right there. With reasonable and competent line play, we win this game. The "NFL left tackle Jackson" stuff can just stop.

1. Stanley played pretty well actually. He does not deserve the heat he is getting, as he was in the correct play and made the correct read pretty much every play. He made some great throws. He did miss a throw to Sargent that could have been a first down and he definitely should have thrown the ball away on one of the sacks. But the other sacks were not on him.
2. Goodson played really well and in my opinion did a better job picking up blitzes than Sargent. Young does a great job picking up blitzes too.
3. Out of 31 plays I charted (I did not do the last drive), La. Paulsen made 7 egregious errors. By this I mean he either completely whiffed on a block, allowed a free rusher, or committed a penalty. Jackson had 3. Levi Paulsen had 2 and Banwart had 1. Sargent had 1. Wieting had 1. That is nearly half the plays when we had a player that could not block someone. An offense cannot overcome egregious errors on 50% of their plays, no offense can.
4. Notice I didnt say anything about Wirfs or Linderbaum. They are elite. Michigan only tried to blitz Wirfs once and he picked it up perfectly. Linderbaum allowed nothing in the middle. Zero.
5. I really can't blame B. Ferentz a lot here either. It did appear that he abandoned the run too early, however, after the re-watch and realizing the situation, we found ourselves in extremely long yardage situations where we could not run. We were behind the chains the entire time.

So lets all hope that something happens on the left side of our line and we clean that up. But knowing that we are talking about 5th year seniors and a supposed NFL tackle, it is hard to be optimistic.
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1.That left-handed throw Stanley made at the end of the game was impressive I thought.

2. Goodson should be getting half the snaps, divying up the rest between Sargent and Toren. He's so smooth out of the backfield, catching passes. Ronnie Harmon-like actually.

3. Alaric perhaps was rusty and out of shape, having missed so much action. Maybe we should give him a mulligan.

4. Wirfs and Lindebaum are studs.

5. Brian probably is getting too much heat. The time we had first and ten at the Michigan 30, then ran it for 5 to the 25 should have brought about a couple of more run calls by Brian as we seemed to gash Michigan on that run. Instead, he calls for a pass, Stanley is sacked and then we moved backwards again.
 
I agree, it is disappointing for us when we were once considered offensive line university to be that clueless.
 
dirtwrap said:
I re-watched the second half of the game with intentions of going back and doing the first half but it is painfully obvious that I do not need to do that. If any of you want to go back and do the same thing, don't pay any attention to the play, just watch the offensive line play between 68 and 77, La. Paulsen and Jackson. It is horrific. That is where the game was lost, right there. With reasonable and competent line play, we win this game. The "NFL left tackle Jackson" stuff can just stop.

1. Stanley played pretty well actually. He does not deserve the heat he is getting, as he was in the correct play and made the correct read pretty much every play. He made some great throws. He did miss a throw to Sargent that could have been a first down and he definitely should have thrown the ball away on one of the sacks. But the other sacks were not on him.
2. Goodson played really well and in my opinion did a better job picking up blitzes than Sargent. Young does a great job picking up blitzes too.
3. Out of 31 plays I charted (I did not do the last drive), La. Paulsen made 7 egregious errors. By this I mean he either completely whiffed on a block, allowed a free rusher, or committed a penalty. Jackson had 3. Levi Paulsen had 2 and Banwart had 1. Sargent had 1. Wieting had 1. That is nearly half the plays when we had a player that could not block someone. An offense cannot overcome egregious errors on 50% of their plays, no offense can.
4. Notice I didnt say anything about Wirfs or Linderbaum. They are elite. Michigan only tried to blitz Wirfs once and he picked it up perfectly. Linderbaum allowed nothing in the middle. Zero.
5. I really can't blame B. Ferentz a lot here either. It did appear that he abandoned the run too early, however, after the re-watch and realizing the situation, we found ourselves in extremely long yardage situations where we could not run. We were behind the chains the entire time.

So lets all hope that something happens on the left side of our line and we clean that up. But knowing that we are talking about 5th year seniors and a supposed NFL tackle, it is hard to be optimistic.
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Just about says it all that a freshman out played these other guys.
 
Watch the first play from scrimmage. Sargent’s fumble. Paulsen is literally shoved 5 yards into the backfield. His guy blew that play up by himself. Wirfs and Jackson rode their guys out. Linderbaum and Banwart kicked their guy’s asses. That play was blown up because of Paulsen
 
SteveGarvey1 said:
5. Brian probably is getting too much heat. The time we had first and ten at the Michigan 30, then ran it for 5 to the 25 should have brought about a couple of more run calls by Brian as we seemed to gash Michigan on that run. Instead, he calls for a pass, Stanley is sacked and then we moved backwards again.
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When I went back and looked at that play, it was 2nd and 5 and we just ran for 5 yards out of the I. Michigan then took a safety out and stacked the line. They had 7 on the line, 3 LB's and a single safety. I think any offensive coordinator in that position is going to throw. But Jackson got beat and it made Stanley step up in the pocket where the guy that beat Paulsen sacked him.

Now it is 3rd and 9, and we bring 2 RB's in to protect, but the other Paulsen gets beat and makes Stanley throw it early.
 
Jackson wasn't up to game speed, and was playing for the first time, essentially, with a new center and guard on the road. He wasn't ready for this game and we didn't have a capable backup. That's what happened, and the injury bug finally bit us hard enough to lose. He'll be better vs. PSU this week.
 
okeefe4prez said:
Good post and thank you for rewatching it. I have been saying bince Madison in 2017 that Stanley's bad games are a product of the line. Stanley ain't a world beater, but he is better than some of these bad games would indicate. The interior of Iowa's o-line has been really bad for a couple years. They have been totally lost on stunts, blitzes and against well-disguised 3-4 defenses where you don't know where the 4th rusher will come from.

My biggest concern is that outside of Goodson, we don't really have anyone great at TE or RB and those, along with the o-line, are the positions that win us games from mid-October through the end of November.
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I have said it a thousand times, if you have a statue for a quarterback, which isnt necessarily a bad thing, you better be able to protect him and he better be able to make the throws. How our o line and specifically our guard play has deteriorated so badly over the years is disturbing.
 
You had to rewatch it to see our OL looked like they were JR High?
That's why the tweet apologizing to the DL.
The loss was almost entirely on the OL.
Not Stanley, not our rb's, definitely not our defense.
 
cincyhawk said:
Jackson wasn't up to game speed, and was playing for the first time, essentially, with a new center and guard on the road. He wasn't ready for this game and we didn't have a capable backup. That's what happened, and the injury bug finally bit us hard enough to lose. He'll be better vs. PSU this week.
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Lets hope so. It is concerning that an injured Jackson is better than anyone else healthy. But he wasnt the main problem, La. Paulsen was. Don't we have anyone there? Kallenberger?
 
4thngoal said:
You had to rewatch it to see our OL looked like they were JR High?
That's why the tweet apologizing to the DL.
The loss was almost entirely on the OL.
Not Stanley, not our rb's, definitely not our defense.
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It wasn't the entire offensive line. And yes, I did need to re-watch it to see where the problems on the offensive line were. Its not fair to lump Wirfs and Linderbaum in that conversation.
 
4thngoal said:
You had to rewatch it to see our OL looked like they were JR High?
That's why the tweet apologizing to the DL.
The loss was almost entirely on the OL.
Not Stanley, not our rb's, definitely not our defense.
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It wasn’t the entire oline though. I realize they take everything as a unit, but a guard position needs replaced badly. That’s where the majority of breakdowns internally happened
 
dirtwrap said:
Lets hope so. It is concerning that an injured Jackson is better than anyone else healthy. But he wasnt the main problem, La. Paulsen was. Don't we have anyone there? Kallenberger?
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We do, but it's likely that Jackson and Paulsen and the blocking back were miscommunicating at the LOS, hence why the twists and outside blitzes led to free rushers on Stanley. The hesitation at the snap that led to Jackson and Paulsen getting beat on runs is also likely due to bad presnap communication.
 
I don't put all the blame on Stanley, but he didn't play very well either. IMO, play calling was aggressive. Iowa took a ton of shots in this game on offense. Threw it all over. Stanley was under throwing so many balls, but I have to imagine that was because of the time he was allowed. The line was horrible. They just weren't good enough or better than what UM was throwing at them. Iowa is not the best team in the country guys. I know it's disappointing. I am too disappointed but I kind of had an idea of that fact before the game. Now I am curious as to just how good of a year they can make it.
 
If we played Iowa state again they would beat us. The line is not good, but the blocking scheme does not help either. Stanley is not good either. His accuracy is so inconsistent, and in this day and age you have to be able to at least avoid a blitz. He just freezes, and that is unacceptable for a senior qb. So is the grounding call, and taking the sack over on the sideline when all he had to do was flip the ball out of bounds.
 
dirtwrap said:
I re-watched the second half of the game with intentions of going back and doing the first half but it is painfully obvious that I do not need to do that. If any of you want to go back and do the same thing, don't pay any attention to the play, just watch the offensive line play between 68 and 77, La. Paulsen and Jackson. It is horrific. That is where the game was lost, right there. With reasonable and competent line play, we win this game. The "NFL left tackle Jackson" stuff can just stop.

1. Stanley played pretty well actually. He does not deserve the heat he is getting, as he was in the correct play and made the correct read pretty much every play. He made some great throws. He did miss a throw to Sargent that could have been a first down and he definitely should have thrown the ball away on one of the sacks. But the other sacks were not on him.
2. Goodson played really well and in my opinion did a better job picking up blitzes than Sargent. Young does a great job picking up blitzes too.
3. Out of 31 plays I charted (I did not do the last drive), La. Paulsen made 7 egregious errors. By this I mean he either completely whiffed on a block, allowed a free rusher, or committed a penalty. Jackson had 3. Levi Paulsen had 2 and Banwart had 1. Sargent had 1. Wieting had 1. That is nearly half the plays when we had a player that could not block someone. An offense cannot overcome egregious errors on 50% of their plays, no offense can.
4. Notice I didnt say anything about Wirfs or Linderbaum. They are elite. Michigan only tried to blitz Wirfs once and he picked it up perfectly. Linderbaum allowed nothing in the middle. Zero.
5. I really can't blame B. Ferentz a lot here either. It did appear that he abandoned the run too early, however, after the re-watch and realizing the situation, we found ourselves in extremely long yardage situations where we could not run. We were behind the chains the entire time.

So lets all hope that something happens on the left side of our line and we clean that up. But knowing that we are talking about 5th year seniors and a supposed NFL tackle, it is hard to be optimistic.
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We should have kept the same O-line we had the last 4 games. Clearly, Jackson was not ready for this game.
 
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