It's been fifteen years. We're nowhere close to a Big 10 championship and have not been for some time.
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Geno Stone is not playing in the NFL, sorry. He is a good college player, but he is too slow for an NFL safety. Smith and ISM will neither one be leaving early either, nor will they play on Sundays. Smith has no speed, sure he will get open now and then, and make a fantastic catch here and there, but he won't get open in the NFL. If we have all this NFL talent, the why do we look so bad on offense?
What? This is some funny shit right here.
amani hooker was a late round guy, he got a $700k signing bonus and a rookie contract paying $500k. That’s good. Leaving early and getting drafted in the 4th or 5th round does pay.
AJE, stone, Jackson and wirfs are gone. Those guys will all be drafted and have had mutilple good games. Hell, even gervase is getting paid and he didn’t get drafted, and stone is way more athletic.
iowas track record with DBs tells me stone will be drafted. DBs don’t look flashy on the field besides Josh Jackson and maybe Desmond.
HawkeyeDenis
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In August few of us thought this team would get past Michigan. Some thought we might get past Penn State because it was at home. It was hoped that Wisconsin would have a bad year. Instead they are back to leading the West.
Most of us think that Iowa will get past Purdue, Illinois, Minnesota. Nebraska, Northwestern are also very winnable. This is still going to be a good year against a tough schedule.
Most of us think that Iowa will get past Purdue, Illinois, Minnesota. Nebraska, Northwestern are also very winnable. This is still going to be a good year against a tough schedule.
Amani won a few awards didn't he?
And next year we have OSU, PSU and MSU.
What is your point? Next year we can lose to them plus Wisconsin and have a "good year"?
NikeHawk21
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Gervase is a lot more athletic than ever given credit for.
Bad coaching.
Its pretty simple to me why iowa sucks this year. Absolutely no a and b zone blocking, and no Elite tight ends for Stanley to use as a security blanket In the red zone.
1977Hawkeye
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FACT: If Iowa had ANY offense whatsoever, they would be undefeated right now and ranked in the Top 10. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Maybe we would look a little more like OSU if we had even a competent offense to go along with the D, but we don't, and we won't, as long as the Ferentz clan is in charge. The lack of an offense costs the Hawks game after game, year after year after year.
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koralakers
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Yes, it seems we tend to be an NFL ‘minor league’ system. Do a great job of getting guys to the NFL, but winning games on Saturdays merely an afterthought. Heck where else in the world would NFL teams find a fullback, tight end, or big slow white QB to draft? Us and Wisky?
If you look at things objectively and remove glasses with any black and gold on them:
With a somewhat balanced offense where teams have to prepare for the run and pass, that can consistently score somewhere in the mid to upper 20s (which would rank your scoring offense somewhere in the 45th-80th in the nation):
Iowa would have won the B1G in 2008, 2009, & 2010
They would have won the West in 2016 & 2018.
But as you referred to, Iowa's O disappears against a D with a pulse.
kicker22
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Nobody, before the season started, really expected us to win at Michigan and Wisconsin, and most didn't really expect us to beat Penn State at Kinnick. We gave both Michigan and Penn State all they could handle on one side of the ball and got absolutely handled on the other side of the ball, and lost by one TD to Michigan and 5 points to Penn State. Not really all that shabby. If the O line was up to snuff we could and should have won both contests.....
An 8-4 season if certainly very possible and considering all the talent we lost to the NFL, that should be a satisfactory season.....
Onward and Upward for the Hawks
Of course, we should prepare now for the slaughter at Madison
FIFY
hawkeyes87
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2009 you're granting them not only a more consistent offense, but one that can maintain that even if the starting qb goes down.
As for the others you're assuming the other teams wouldn't have changed their offensive approach if the Hawks scored more.
Not that I'm arguing the overall point that the offense has been a liability for almost all of KF's teams.
1977Hawkeye
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The offense was inconsistent in the 2000's but honestly since KOK was our OC, I'm not sure there's been an Iowa team that even qualifies as even decent offensively. MAYBE 2015? I'd have to see some stats I guess. But since Greg Davis and Brian Ferentz have been our OC's, yikes.
At least KOK had a few offenses that were pretty good. 2001-02, 2008 for sure. Even 2005 was okay IIRC. Or 2010 before we had some OL injuries.
I fixed it for you
My thoughts exactly....perfect for our mediocre standards
The real question is why do we have so many players in the NFL but have an average college program in terms of W/L? A lot of it has to be adjusting to in game scenarios, x's and o's and the willingness to change things when they aren't working.
