Quote from the Radio this morning RE: Iowa Draft picks

[DexterMorgan]

This may have been posted already..

I think it was Matt Bowen that was no the radio this morning saying a GM was quoted saying "When you draft players from Iowa you're drafting a 2nd year pro". or something very similar to that.

That's quite the compliment to this coaching staff.

 

[ibahawkeye]

Re: Quote from the Radio yesterday RE: Iowa Draft picks

This may have been posted already..

I think it was Matt Bowen that was no the radio yesterday saying a GM was quoted saying "When you draft players from Iowa you're drafting a 2nd year pro". or something very similar to that.

That's quite the compliment to this coaching staff.

I heard it this morning on TNT.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Re: Quote from the Radio yesterday RE: Iowa Draft picks

I heard it this morning on TNT.

You're right that's where it was. Wow, can you tell i didn't get much sleep last night. Fixed it.

 

[iloveyoularrystation]

That is pretty awesome to have said about your coaching staff. Maybe that could be spread around a little more to recruits, you know posted in a recruiting packet somewhere!

 

[cibula11]

This may have been posted already..

I think it was Matt Bowen that was no the radio this morning saying a GM was quoted saying "When you draft players from Iowa you're drafting a 2nd year pro". or something very similar to that.

That's quite the compliment to this coaching staff.

I've also heard the same thing but in a negative way. As in that players have reached their ceiling after attending Iowa because of how much they get out of them which make the NFL think they don't have much room to grow.

Personally, that's crap. Most Iowa guys in the NFL are having some pretty decent NFL careers.

 

[DexterMorgan]

I've also heard the same thing but in a negative way. As in that players have reached their ceiling after attending Iowa because of how much they get out of them which make the NFL think they don't have much room to grow.

Personally, that's crap. Most Iowa guys in the NFL are having some pretty decent NFL careers.

I know this isn't your argument so this isn't directed at you but that's just a terrible argument.

 

[theboat]

I know this isn't your argument so this isn't directed at you but that's just a terrible argument.

I could see that being a much more reasonable argument in basketball, where almost everyone that goes to the nba is living on potential and not achievements when drafted. It's rare that a 4 year college player excels at the next level anymore, but definitely not in football.

 

[Thomzahawke]

I could see that being a much more reasonable argument in basketball, where almost everyone that goes to the nba is living on potential and not achievements when drafted. It's rare that a 4 year college player excels at the next level anymore, but definitely not in football.

Iowa players in the NBA?!?!?! I've forgotten what that's like. Unfortunately.

 

[bassdeer]

One of the quote was" you know exactly what you are getting with an Iowa guy."" then commented on how Iowa runs a pro offense and defense. quaterback under center, 4-3 scheme, etc.

This was after they made comments about some teams offense and defense styles of play, a spread offense does not run any plays with the qb under center and those guys have to learn. pro teams struggle with assessing those players pro game skill since that style is not run in the pros.

 

[olddude]

One of the quote was" you know exactly what you are getting with an Iowa guy."" then commented on how Iowa runs a pro offense and defense. quaterback under center, 4-3 scheme, etc.

This was after they made comments about some teams offense and defense styles of play, a spread offense does not run any plays with the qb under center and those guys have to learn. pro teams struggle with assessing those players pro game skill since that style is not run in the pros.

Yep, you have seen it coming with the rise of the spread, we keep running what we are and have sucess at it and watch the kids is 3 to 4 more years, they are not dumb, they want to go to school where they have the best shot at the pro's.

 

[tweeterhawk]

I've also heard the same thing but in a negative way. As in that players have reached their ceiling after attending Iowa because of how much they get out of them which make the NFL think they don't have much room to grow.

Personally, that's crap. Most Iowa guys in the NFL are having some pretty decent NFL careers.

As much as I hate to admit it, there may be some truth to this. Hadn't really thought about it. Iowa takes players who may not have the size or athleticism of higher-ranked programs but develops them into solid if not outstanding college athletes familiar with pro-style sets. By the time they reach the NFL, for many of them their natural ceiling is not that much higher than where they're at.

If their potential is limited, are NFL teams prepared to invest a bunch of time and money in them?

Iowa guys go on to have "decent NFL careers," but how many go beyond that to "great" or "exceptional" where their names are familiar in many households and kids everywhere wear their jerseys? Dallas Clark may have been on track for that until his injury. Shonn Greene has the potential now. He has been solid but in a two-back system isn't putting up the numbers to attract a national spotlight.

 

[DexterMorgan]

As much as I hate to admit it, there may be some truth to this. Hadn't really thought about it. Iowa takes players who may not have the size or athleticism of higher-ranked programs but develops them into solid if not outstanding college athletes familiar with pro-style sets. By the time they reach the NFL, for many of them their natural ceiling is not that much higher than where they're at.

If their potential is limited, are NFL teams prepared to invest a bunch of time and money in them?

Iowa guys go on to have "decent NFL careers," but how many go beyond that to "great" or "exceptional" where their names are familiar in many households and kids everywhere wear their jerseys? Dallas Clark may have been on track for that until his injury. Shonn Greene has the potential now. He has been solid but in a two-back system isn't putting up the numbers to attract a national spotlight.

In the interview they went on to say one of the draws of drafting an Iowa player is they know how to act in the weight room, film room, and in meetings. Which would speak to the way they are able to better themselves mentally. Most players have reached their physical peak by the time they play 3-4 years of college ball.

 

[tm3308]

As much as I hate to admit it, there may be some truth to this. Hadn't really thought about it. Iowa takes players who may not have the size or athleticism of higher-ranked programs but develops them into solid if not outstanding college athletes familiar with pro-style sets. By the time they reach the NFL, for many of them their natural ceiling is not that much higher than where they're at.

If their potential is limited, are NFL teams prepared to invest a bunch of time and money in them?

Iowa guys go on to have "decent NFL careers," but how many go beyond that to "great" or "exceptional" where their names are familiar in many households and kids everywhere wear their jerseys? Dallas Clark may have been on track for that until his injury. Shonn Greene has the potential now. He has been solid but in a two-back system isn't putting up the numbers to attract a national spotlight.

Greenway and Sanders also are household names (Clark has been for a couple years now). Moeaki and Angerer may get to that point eventually if they keep up like they did this year. I think Ballard is going to have a very good career too. It seems as though we're picking up the pace in turning out players with that kind of potential.

 

[WinOneThisCentury]

As much as I hate to admit it, there may be some truth to this. Hadn't really thought about it. Iowa takes players who may not have the size or athleticism of higher-ranked programs but develops them into solid if not outstanding college athletes familiar with pro-style sets. By the time they reach the NFL, for many of them their natural ceiling is not that much higher than where they're at.

If their potential is limited, are NFL teams prepared to invest a bunch of time and money in them?

Iowa guys go on to have "decent NFL careers," but how many go beyond that to "great" or "exceptional" where their names are familiar in many households and kids everywhere wear their jerseys? Dallas Clark may have been on track for that until his injury. Shonn Greene has the potential now. He has been solid but in a two-back system isn't putting up the numbers to attract a national spotlight.

While I admit there is some truth to the premise that the Iowa program develops players as well as any in the country. The assertion that they won't continue to develop is honestly ridiculous. The body peaks physically in the late 20s and even into your early thirties depending on the wear and tear of your position. Are you saying these players won't continue to get better as they mature? Players don't leave Iowa mentally ready for the NFL...and the complexity of the schemes they will see in the NFL...that is a process that requires growth also. Are they better prepared to step into the NFL than other players, especially in the OL, I'd say yes. Does anyone really thing Bulaga has peaked? He is going to be an absolute monster within the next few years.

 

[muskienks]

Linemen rarely get to be "household names" or have a lot of guys wearing their jerseys, but think of the Iowa guys who have had the franchise label stuck on them or made all pro or defensive player of the year. I'd say that Sanders, Clark, Kampman, Yanda and Wiegmann all continued to develop after the got to the pros.