QB Quandary for '13
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BonanzaHawk
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I don't want someone to ask Kirk why Rudock hasn't played. I want them to ask, "Do you feel Jake is incapable of performing in games?" I want to hear what he has to say.
just what have you seen or know that says Ruduck was ready to play as a RSFR?
even MSU struggled with a RSJR playing QB for them., if a RSJR struggled, who's to say a RSFR won't.
and as for how he will do as a RSSO playing without prior snaps goes it sure didn't hurt Stanzi.
and after seing how Jake C got ripped by ther media and fans has a RSFR, I doubt KF wanted to put Rudock thru that crap.. fans and the media are ruthless on a kid, so I feel KF did this to protect the kid from you people, and can take the heat better than some 19 year old kid
even MSU struggled with a RSJR playing QB for them., if a RSJR struggled, who's to say a RSFR won't.
and as for how he will do as a RSSO playing without prior snaps goes it sure didn't hurt Stanzi.
and after seing how Jake C got ripped by ther media and fans has a RSFR, I doubt KF wanted to put Rudock thru that crap.. fans and the media are ruthless on a kid, so I feel KF did this to protect the kid from you people, and can take the heat better than some 19 year old kid
SamBrownlee48
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"You feel that Jake is incapable of performing in games, don't you?" = How I'd do it if I was x-examining someone guilty of murdering the '12 Hawkeyes.
also Maxwell was a 4* on all sites and played like crap this season and they have 4* QB Boisture backing him up and he never took a snap this fall as his backup . and yet expect these kids to play like 5* star AA from day one.
talk about getting carried away. this is beyond crazy
talk about getting carried away. this is beyond crazy
BonanzaHawk
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Herb we won't have a 4* QB on the roster next year not a single FR SO JR SR RSFR RSSO RSJR or RSSR so who should we start next year
We have FR Greg Garmon who was a 4* athlete he's about 6'1" 200 a little undersize but I like what he would bring as a mobile QB
The answer to the posed question is: Rudock is a freshman struggling to learn a new system that our 5th year experienced starting QB Vandy has been unable to master even after nearly a season of game experience. "Vandy gave us our best chance to win." Interpretation: Kirk does not want to put Rudock out there to run a system that's not working with a makeshift offensive line, little running game and receivers who when they do get open stand a good chance of dropping the pass. He wants Rudock to have good game film of successful plays to evaluate not failed attempts. He didn't want Rudock getting blitzed and hammered in the process too. Too many sacks, next thing you know your QB has happy feet, lacks confidence etc. He's protecting the future.
BonanzaHawk
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DUDE, there is absolutely no evidence of that. If anything, this system is simple: let everyone run around, and then you throw to the guy furthest away from the 1st down; surely he couldn't execute that much worse than Vandenberg. This theory that Rudock is unprepared or incapable originates from some guy making a tin-foil hat theory driving home in the dark from watching his favorite football team get murdered by one of his most hated teams, and makes no sense. People fail to realize that Vandy and Rudock have had the same amount of time to learn this system, and building up to the season Davis raved about how well Vandy had grasped it, and HEY, it sucks anyway.
Rudock hasn't seen the field because Kirk is a stubborn old man, and even then it doesn't make sense. He couldn't really be that stubborn, could he? I want there to be a real, sensible reason for this as much as the next guy, but this isn't it.
DUDE...it's not about worse than Vandy. It's about your future QB being put in a situation where he can't possibly succeed or worse loses his confidence & gets happy feet. What's to gain by tossing him into the fire especially if he's not ready. Did you watch any of the preseason scrimmages? Rudock looked very unsure and unready. You really think a redshirt frosh could execute this read/react system - it's what the pro QB's run. It takes most QB's years just to learn to read defenses, many never do. It's like a lot of people feared before the season started - the system is advanced & works with future NFL QB's & wideouts like Davis had at Texas, but the learning curve is huge given the talent on hand. You don't risk the future to win one game now (like given our talent a win would even be possible). Sometimes you have to cut your losses and come back fighting another day. Not throw all your assets into a lost cause. We get that you hate hate hate Ferentz, but your conspiracy theory logic lacks basis.
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just what qualification do you have to make a call like that?
you probably have 100's of hours at your X-Box to make that call, to even think you know more than a pair of coaches that have been doing this for over 30 years each is laughable..
BonanzaHawk
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I do have many hours logged in my Dynasty on XBOX, and that's why my Iowa Hawkeyes have won the championship three years in a row and have a top 5 recruiting class on a yearly basis.
Also, I don't really claim to know more than these coaches, but based on the fact that EVERY other head coach in the country has played their backup at least for one play, I'll trust that there is some merit to the idea. I never realized it until today, but Iowa is the only team in the country to only have played one single quarterback for every single play all year. Worse teams, better teams, SEC teams, MAC teams, all of them have played the backup. How do people continue to defend Ferentz for not playing Rudock?
You ask what is to be gained from putting him in? I don't know, success maybe. And you're worried that putting him in is going to hurt his confidence? I'm guessing it won't hurt his confidence anymore than inexplicably being the only backup in the nation to not play.
UweBlab
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If any one could ask Jake Rudock, I am sure he wants to PLAY every single minute he can.
Herby's crap about playing damaging Rudock's future is crap. If we have any players that fragile we are in trouble. ANY minutes that he could play are valuable experiences. Hundreds of RSFR and FR are playing key roles in college football. We will never know if Jake has that ability to come in the game and make things happen because of Ferentz.
Herby's crap about playing damaging Rudock's future is crap. If we have any players that fragile we are in trouble. ANY minutes that he could play are valuable experiences. Hundreds of RSFR and FR are playing key roles in college football. We will never know if Jake has that ability to come in the game and make things happen because of Ferentz.
AHawk1
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Agree, but I'm hopefully optimistic on a few others and think we could have a better QB next year then this year. I'm still not giving Ferentz a pass on not seeing Ruddock or someone else that won't burn a Redshirt not getting a few snaps this year.
