Proposed Rule Changes - Shorter Shot Clock

Combine Hawkfan33's 1st post in this thread with '77 hawkeyes' post and the 2nd paragraph of Knight78 and there is your starting point, it is not officiating and it is definitely not a shorter clock. A shorter clock by itself solves nothing.
 


Knight78 said:
My wife and I played basketball for DIII Wartburg back in the day (late '70s). The women had a 30 second shot clock then (and still do). Mens basketball in the Iowa Conference experimented with a 30 second shot clock as well. Rarely did the shot clock come into play in either game.

And I don't agree about the lack of talent. I think the athletic talent is MUCH better today. However, I think today's players rely more on their athletic ability and don't really learn fundamentals. And that lack of fundamentals helps lead to lower scoring. A pick and roll where the picker pivots properly on the correct foot will make him open EVERY time; sadly, it isn't done today. And off-ball screens, the players today simply don't set up their man in order to use the pick properly. Sealing your man on the post is rarely done and when it is done, the passer doesn't understand the angle or the placement of the pass to feed the post. Finishing around the basket with either hand is a lost art. Boxing out? VERY rarely. All these things add up to poorer field goal percentages due to bad shots or contested shots.

I do agree about the scouting. You can get video of any opponent easily today and the coaching/manager staff is larger today so you have more people going over that video to create a defensive plan.
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I would also add that big men do not know how to play with their back to the basket, it is a lost art. Too many big men think they are 3(s) and just want to hang out on the perimeter.
 


Just as many above have pointed out, I don't think any rules need to be changed. they need to enforce the ones they already have.

Stop letting defenses mug, hold, and hand check.
Stop letting ballhandlers travel and carry the ball when crossing over.

Let's get back to actual basketball.
 


I wouldn't be in favor of a shot clock change, it is fine where it is currently. Any shorter and now you are forcing everyone to deploy a faster tempo offense. I like it that at 35 seconds you can still have multiple offensive styles across college basketball.

Do I like slow plodding offenses? No. That isn't really the point. It is the variety of offenses that 35 seconds gives over something like 24.

If I want watch chuck and brick I can turn on the NBA. I hope the powers at be leave this one alone.
 




I'm in favor of a shorter shot clock. I don't see any reason why a team shouldn't be able to get a shot in 30 seconds. No reason to give a team an advantage by shortening the game by holding on to the ball.

EDIT: Iowa High School basketball needs to add a shot clock!!
 


TritonHawkeye said:
I wouldn't be in favor of a shot clock change, it is fine where it is currently. Any shorter and now you are forcing everyone to deploy a faster tempo offense. I like it that at 35 seconds you can still have multiple offensive styles across college basketball.

Do I like slow plodding offenses? No. That isn't really the point. It is the variety of offenses that 35 seconds gives over something like 24.

If I want watch chuck and brick I can turn on the NBA. I hope the powers at be leave this one alone.
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I take it you don't watch much NBA? The level of shooting is the NBA is vastly superior to college.
 








Really, put in a shorter clock so these incompetent officials have more time to look at the monitor and ESPN can sell more Ads. The clock is not the problem.
 














Decreasing the shot clock and not doing anything about officiating on the defense side of the ball will increase more defensive thuggery, not decrease it.
 


It's not the type of gun, but who gets access. Er uh well, changing access won't do anything. We need better policing. Throwing money at more police is not the answer. Speaking of police, we need more firefighters.

This thread is awesome.
 


What if bball were to adopt the penalty method used by ice hockey. Mainly if you commit a foul you go to the penalty box. If you are on defense and commit a reach in foul before the half court line you get 3 minutes minimum in the penalty box. If you foul the shooter you get two minutes and they get the free throws. I guess what I am saying is right now there is not enough of a penalty for fouls created by aggressive (same as physical) play. If you create a bigger disincentive for fouling it just might change the way coaches are teaching the game.

Can you imagine three players in the penalty box at one time? It could happen under such a system.
 


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