Preview, Prediction: Iowa Looking to Tame Wildcats

[HuckFinn]

Run game, Run game, Run game...

 

[Xerxes]

Why should Iowa be so much deeper?

It's not because of the in-state talent. Fitz can fall out of bed and find more recruits than he would be able to in Iowa. It's a matter of population.

In fact, Iowa was among the favorites for the QB and RB it will see this week. They ended up staying home and choosing Northwestern. It have quite a few recruits that chose the Wildcats ahead of schools like Iowa, Wisconsin and Michigan State.

Northwestern also is in the middle of a major facilities upgrade. Fitz is the second longest tenured coach in the conference.

As I said, this isn't the '80s Northwestern.

Not only this but if you’ve ever seen their campus, you’d be hard pressed to turn it down. Close suburb to a great city, on Lake Michigan and frankly their campus makes most nice college campuses look like trash dumps

 

[InGoodCo]

Based on their results this year...no. Vegas knows the history. Iowa should be so much deeper. This is ultimately the struggle of the program. A 20 year coach should be on par with Wisky with some ups and downs warranted. Anyway my opinion. Got to had it to Fitz, he's done well with his limitations.

Why should Iowa be so much deeper? Give me one publication that predicted Iowa to finish higher then Northwestern this season? They returned a starting QB - one of the best backs in the conference and have a great defense. They also beat Iowa in Iowa City LAST season?
Northwestern gave Wisci all they wanted in Camp Randall. A win over Maryland is pretty similar to Iowa's win over ISU. This is a pick em game - the whole "Iowa has no business losing" is part of YOUR ultimate struggle with the program I think. They have same amount of scholarships as Iowa does and a coach that's been around the block a few times themselves. This is going to be a tough game for Iowa.

 

[SheagleHawk]

Being a Hawk fan I'll predict them to win, barely. Final score something like 20-17

But it'll be brutal to watch. We'll probably see the same issues in this game as we've seen all year (and over the last decade with KF ball)

Start out slow
Lopsided TOP to NW
Defense on field too much (see above)
Struggle to cross midfield
Losing at Halftime
Defense creates turnovers
Offense scores off turnovers
Frantic last two minutes of game -- Needing a defensive stop, or offense trying to score

I know I said Hawks win, but it could go either way. Most of us fans will be annoyed, and others will tell us this is classic KF football and it's as good as it'll ever get

That pretty much sums up 90% of our games under KF, no matter the opponent.

 

[SheagleHawk]

Why should Iowa be so much deeper?

It's not because of the in-state talent. Fitz can fall out of bed and find more recruits than he would be able to in Iowa. It's a matter of population.

In fact, Iowa was among the favorites for the QB and RB it will see this week. They ended up staying home and choosing Northwestern. It have quite a few recruits that chose the Wildcats ahead of schools like Iowa, Wisconsin and Michigan State.

Northwestern also is in the middle of a major facilities upgrade. Fitz is the second longest tenured coach in the conference.

As I said, this isn't the '80s Northwestern.

"Fall out of bed and find more recruits" is a totally ridiculous statement, and one that lets the coaches off the hook for pretty mediocre recruiting over KFs tenure. It's not like NW has the luxury of accepting the Troy Davis' of the world. I would argue it's MUCH more difficult to recruit to NW with their 0 tradition and admission requirements.

 

[DDThompson]

I'll anxiously await kickoff thinking I'll see something different (as I do for every game), and after the first offensive series realize it's the same old thing and wonder what they did for 2 weeks to prepare.

You do realize that there are things you do in the first quarter to set up things later in the game? So the first offensive series isn't the final grade.

But I would like to see a couple of formations in the first quarter to get NW defense thinking about what could happen rather than reacting to what they've seen happen.

 

[Motigerhawk]

Iowa will come off the bye week with a brand new philosophy on offense. Gone is the stretch run to the weak side. In is a brand new misdirection run game. back are the 8 yard outs. A new wrinkle is Stanley connecting on deep balls.

Iowa 35 NW 21

The real new era of BF offense begins now!

(One can always hope)

 

[IndianaHawk]

Why should Iowa be so much deeper?

It's not because of the in-state talent. Fitz can fall out of bed and find more recruits than he would be able to in Iowa. It's a matter of population.

In fact, Iowa was among the favorites for the QB and RB it will see this week. They ended up staying home and choosing Northwestern. It have quite a few recruits that chose the Wildcats ahead of schools like Iowa, Wisconsin and Michigan State.

Northwestern also is in the middle of a major facilities upgrade. Fitz is the second longest tenured coach in the conference.

As I said, this isn't the '80s Northwestern.

Before the season I had this as a lose. Did you see the NW-Duke game? That may have been a worse beat down the Hawks took a while back at Arizona State. I now like the Hawks in this one.

 

[hawkinstl]

You do realize that there are things you do in the first quarter to set up things later in the game? So the first offensive series isn't the final grade.

But I would like to see a couple of formations in the first quarter to get NW defense thinking about what could happen rather than reacting to what they've seen happen.

Have you ever watched Iowa play football?

 

[HawkGold]

Have you ever watched Iowa play football?

You do realize that KF uses the whole first half of doing the same thing over and over to set up a chance to win in the 4th right?

 

[HawkGold]

Why should Iowa be so much deeper? Give me one publication that predicted Iowa to finish higher then Northwestern this season? They returned a starting QB - one of the best backs in the conference and have a great defense. They also beat Iowa in Iowa City LAST season?
Northwestern gave Wisci all they wanted in Camp Randall. A win over Maryland is pretty similar to Iowa's win over ISU. This is a pick em game - the whole "Iowa has no business losing" is part of YOUR ultimate struggle with the program I think. They have same amount of scholarships as Iowa does and a coach that's been around the block a few times themselves. This is going to be a tough game for Iowa.

Ok you are right. Theh beat Bowling Green, 1 win Nevada, and Maryland on 3rd qb. We are in serious trouble. NW blasted Duke by a negative 20 some points. They are a pipeline to law school. Iowa City is such a hole. The corn pollen is terrible. We point guns at minority football players. Who would ever want to come.

Our budget is terrible and NW outdraws us by negative tens of thousands.

 

[OkstHawk]

Why should Iowa be so much deeper?

It's not because of the in-state talent. Fitz can fall out of bed and find more recruits than he would be able to in Iowa. It's a matter of population.

In fact, Iowa was among the favorites for the QB and RB it will see this week. They ended up staying home and choosing Northwestern. It have quite a few recruits that chose the Wildcats ahead of schools like Iowa, Wisconsin and Michigan State.

Northwestern also is in the middle of a major facilities upgrade. Fitz is the second longest tenured coach in the conference.

As I said, this isn't the '80s Northwestern.

Give it a rest already with the population thing. That's what you pay coaches and assistants for. If you can't outrecruit NW (who by the way has ridiculous entrance standards which severely reduce the potential talent pool) maybe as a program we need to evaluate how our resources are being allocated.

The time for excuses concerning why this staff can't recruit is well past it's expiration date.

 

[RobHowe]

"Fall out of bed and find more recruits" is a totally ridiculous statement, and one that lets the coaches off the hook for pretty mediocre recruiting over KFs tenure. It's not like NW has the luxury of accepting the Troy Davis' of the world. I would argue it's MUCH more difficult to recruit to NW with their 0 tradition and admission requirements.

And you’d be wrong. Research their recruits and check out their other offers. They’re not stealing recruits from Princeton and Harvard.

 

[RobHowe]

Give it a rest already with the population thing. That's what you pay coaches and assistants for. If you can't outrecruit NW (who by the way has ridiculous entrance standards which severely reduce the potential talent pool) maybe as a program we need to evaluate how our resources are being allocated.

The time for excuses concerning why this staff can't recruit is well past it's expiration date.

Your time on this site is coming close to its expiration date. I don’t need to or have to deal with your attitude. You add very little, if anything, to most discussions on here.

You don’t have to like the population aspect of recruiting but that doesn’t make it any less relevant. It’s a fact. The state of Iowa produces fewer D-I players than all but possibly Nebraska in the Big Ten.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

Your time on this site is coming close to its expiration date. I don’t need to or have to deal with your attitude. You add very little, if anything, to most discussions on here.

You don’t have to like the population aspect of recruiting but that doesn’t make it any less relevant. It’s a fact. The state of Iowa produces fewer D-I players than all but possibly Nebraska in the Big Ten.

(Thunderous applause)

 

[HawkGold]

Your time on this site is coming close to its expiration date. I don’t need to or have to deal with your attitude. You add very little, if anything, to most discussions on here.

You don’t have to like the population aspect of recruiting but that doesn’t make it any less relevant. It’s a fact. The state of Iowa produces fewer D-I players than all but possibly Nebraska in the Big Ten.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-fo...l-recruiting-state-rankings-population-capita

Iowa should not be behind Wisconsin. Oregon should never have made a big run. How the heck does K State do it?

Elite recruits per capita, 2013-17
Search:
State Population Est. Blue Chips '13-'17 Per 100,000
D.C. 681,170 15 2.20
Louisiana 4,681,666 74 1.58
Georgia 10,310,371 141 1.37
Mississippi 2,988,726 38 1.27
Alabama 4,863,300 59 1.21
Florida 20,612,439 227 1.10
Texas 27,862,596 229 0.82
Hawaii 1,428,557 10 0.70
Ohio 11,614,373 79 0.68
Virginia 8,411,808 57 0.68
Tennessee 6,651,194 44 0.66
Maryland 6,016,447 36 0.60
South Carolina 4,961,119 28 0.56
Oklahoma 3,923,561 20 0.51
California 39,250,017 199 0.51
North Carolina 10,146,788 51 0.50
Arkansas 2,988,248 15 0.50
Utah 3,051,217 14 0.46
New Jersey 8,944,469 41 0.46
Nevada 2,940,058 13 0.44
Indiana 6,633,053 24 0.36
Michigan 9,928,300 35 0.35
Pennsylvania 12,784,227 44 0.34
Arizona 6,931,071 23 0.33
Illinois 12,801,539 37 0.29
Washington 7,288,000 18 0.25
Oregon 4,093,465 10 0.24
Iowa 3,134,693 7 0.22
Delaware 952,065 2 0.21
Kansas 2,907,289 6 0.21
Kentucky 4,436,974 9 0.20
Missouri 6,093,000 12 0.20
Colorado 5,540,545 10 0.18
South Dakota 865,454 1 0.12
Connecticut 3,576,452 4 0.11
Minnesota 5,519,952 6 0.11
Nebraska 1,907,116 2 0.10
Wisconsin 5,778,708 6 0.10
New Mexico 2,081,015 2 0.10
Idaho 1,683,140 1 0.06
New York 19,745,289 6 0.03
Massachusetts 6,811,779 2 0.03
Alaska 741,894 0 0.00
Maine 1,331,479 0 0.00
Montana 1,042,520 0 0.00
New Hampshire 1,334,795 0 0.00
North Dakota 757,952 0 0.00
Rhode Island 1,056,426 0 0.00
Vermont 624,594 0 0.00
West Virginia 1,831,102 0 0.00
Wyoming 585,501 0 0.00

 

[94HawkMA]

We gotta get pressure on the QB but I don’t see that happening. Lose by single digits, otherwise known as the “Ferentz”

If the game is close, Iowa loses. Iowa can't stop the run and has a horrible punting game. Only chance is that Iowa hit's some deep balls an loosens up Fitz's defense. Unfortunately, Iowa needs this win to be able to finish the season bowl eligible.

 

[RobHowe]

https://www.sbnation.com/college-fo...l-recruiting-state-rankings-population-capita

Iowa should not be behind Wisconsin. Oregon should never have made a big run. How the heck does K State do it?

Elite recruits per capita, 2013-17
Search:
State Population Est. Blue Chips '13-'17 Per 100,000
D.C. 681,170 15 2.20
Louisiana 4,681,666 74 1.58
Georgia 10,310,371 141 1.37
Mississippi 2,988,726 38 1.27
Alabama 4,863,300 59 1.21
Florida 20,612,439 227 1.10
Texas 27,862,596 229 0.82
Hawaii 1,428,557 10 0.70
Ohio 11,614,373 79 0.68
Virginia 8,411,808 57 0.68
Tennessee 6,651,194 44 0.66
Maryland 6,016,447 36 0.60
South Carolina 4,961,119 28 0.56
Oklahoma 3,923,561 20 0.51
California 39,250,017 199 0.51
North Carolina 10,146,788 51 0.50
Arkansas 2,988,248 15 0.50
Utah 3,051,217 14 0.46
New Jersey 8,944,469 41 0.46
Nevada 2,940,058 13 0.44
Indiana 6,633,053 24 0.36
Michigan 9,928,300 35 0.35
Pennsylvania 12,784,227 44 0.34
Arizona 6,931,071 23 0.33
Illinois 12,801,539 37 0.29
Washington 7,288,000 18 0.25
Oregon 4,093,465 10 0.24
Iowa 3,134,693 7 0.22
Delaware 952,065 2 0.21
Kansas 2,907,289 6 0.21
Kentucky 4,436,974 9 0.20
Missouri 6,093,000 12 0.20
Colorado 5,540,545 10 0.18
South Dakota 865,454 1 0.12
Connecticut 3,576,452 4 0.11
Minnesota 5,519,952 6 0.11
Nebraska 1,907,116 2 0.10
Wisconsin 5,778,708 6 0.10
New Mexico 2,081,015 2 0.10
Idaho 1,683,140 1 0.06
New York 19,745,289 6 0.03
Massachusetts 6,811,779 2 0.03
Alaska 741,894 0 0.00
Maine 1,331,479 0 0.00
Montana 1,042,520 0 0.00
New Hampshire 1,334,795 0 0.00
North Dakota 757,952 0 0.00
Rhode Island 1,056,426 0 0.00
Vermont 624,594 0 0.00
West Virginia 1,831,102 0 0.00
Wyoming 585,501 0 0.00

Not sure the context of this data but I'm guessing it's elite recruits, ie. four or five star kids, per capita. If so, that accounts for the top kids not the number of D-I prospects. Iowa has had a good run with guys like Pierschbacher, Darboh, Martin, etc. That doesn't change the fact that Iowa doesn't have the number of Power 5 players in this state compared to others in the conference. Find me a comparison between the No. of Power 5 players in Chicago compared to the entire state of Iowa in the last five years.

 

[RobHowe]

And again, I'm getting tired of the same 5-10 posters pounding their anti-Iowa football coaches agenda into way too many discussions on this board. We get it. You don't like the staff. Their recruiting sucks. Iowa deserves better.

Christ, it's like a freakin' broken record.

If I just start a thread titled "Let's Bitch and Complain" can you guys just stay in that lane and have your party?

 

[1hawkeye1]

Always have a bad feeling about NW. Because the game will be razor close and Iowa has no punting game at all... Kitty Cats 23-21