Potenial Big Ten-SEC schedule Alliance

[trj]

Yes, I would guess that Bama and Georgia are probably not going to happen. But I would not mind if Iowa and Arkansas play a home and home series. Or maybe Iowa and Ole Miss. Eventually get Mizzou in a home and home, but not for a few years because they just played each other in a bowl.

Does it matter that you have 60,000 for Ball St. or 65,000 for Arkansas, for a home game in mid-September?

What matters to me, is being a 5 seed taking on Notre Dame at home, night game, Kinnick being electric.

 

[haydensly]

I was at that Kstate game in Arrowhead in 2000. Hottest F'ing day in the history of football. People were passing out in the stands.

I was at that game too. And it was the hottest ever. What I also remember about it was the fact that the water fountains did not work. Had to buy (expensive) bottled water or get severely dehydrated.

That game was also Bob Sanders coming out party. The start of a great career.

 

[NorthKCHawk]

I was at that game too. And it was the hottest ever. What I also remember about it was the fact that the water fountains did not work. Had to buy (expensive) bottled water or get severely dehydrated.

That game was also Bob Sanders coming out party. The start of a great career.

Poor Hawks had to wear their black unis for some reason. Brutal. Almost as brutal as Iowa's on field performance that day!!! KF was a smidge less grey back then.

 

[kicker22]

I don't mind cupcakes that much either. A win is a win. It also helps spread the wealth as those games cover the football budget for the visiting team so they can continue to field a team.

Although when we barely sneak by South Dakota State it is troublesome....

My problem is that everyone should have the same obligation. The SEC should move their conference slate to 9 and then everyone have the same cupcake opportunities, whether it is 1 or 2. It should not be 3. No one should have 25% of a schedule against the MAC.

I'm with you and am ok with cupcakes for a number of reasons. I completely agree that cash games are great for smaller schools budgets and needed for their survival. I also agree that while everyone (fans and rivals) calls out scheduling cupcakes 90% of the teams are doing it, so it's not that big of a deal. That said I do have issues with top 5/top 10 teams scheduling multiple cupcakes, or when the cupcakes are scheduled late in the season (Yeah you SEC), but other then that I'm ok with them.

What I'm not ok with is using them to simply fill out a non-conference schedule. If you're scheduling them to see what a young team is capable of. Great. If your scheduling them because you want to see what the depth chart looks like and get give backups some meaningful minutes then do it. However, I have issue with the mentality of using those games as an opportunity to get up big in the first half and then sit on a lead or minimize the playbook I'm not a fan. I see us do it all the time and my blood boils every time we go to our second team offense to simply run draw after draw just to get them game reps. Give the players the opportunity to get meaningful reps and actually show what they're capable of rather then simply taking snaps to milk the clock so you can move on and focus on the next week. You don't have to run the score up, but you can't tell me that Iowa's passing game in the past wouldn't have benefitted from actually throwing the ball downfield in a game day atmosphere rather then simply running draw after draw for 25-30 minutes. It's possible to take your foot off the gas, without pumping the breaks in a manner that is disrespectful to your opponent. And to be honest, if that opponent is taking your money to play them then they're being financially compensated in advance for the beat down and there's no disrespect.

 

[NorthKCHawk]

I'm with you and am ok with cupcakes for a number of reasons. I completely agree that cash games are great for smaller schools budgets and needed for their survival. I also agree that while everyone (fans and rivals) calls out scheduling cupcakes 90% of the teams are doing it, so it's not that big of a deal. That said I do have issues with top 5/top 10 teams scheduling multiple cupcakes, or when the cupcakes are scheduled late in the season (Yeah you SEC), but other then that I'm ok with them.

What I'm not ok with is using them to simply fill out a non-conference schedule. If you're scheduling them to see what a young team is capable of. Great. If your scheduling them because you want to see what the depth chart looks like and get give backups some meaningful minutes then do it. However, I have issue with the mentality of using those games as an opportunity to get up big in the first half and then sit on a lead or minimize the playbook I'm not a fan. I see us do it all the time and my blood boils every time we go to our second team offense to simply run draw after draw just to get them game reps. Give the players the opportunity to get meaningful reps and actually show what they're capable of rather then simply taking snaps to milk the clock so you can move on and focus on the next week. You don't have to run the score up, but you can't tell me that Iowa's passing game in the past wouldn't have benefitted from actually throwing the ball downfield in a game day atmosphere rather then simply running draw after draw for 25-30 minutes. It's possible to take your foot off the gas, without pumping the breaks in a manner that is disrespectful to your opponent. And to be honest, if that opponent is taking your money to play them then they're being financially compensated in advance for the beat down and there's no disrespect.

I think a lot of these concerns get solved if the SEC moves to 9 conference games AND there is a mandatory crossover game between the conferences. Then, you are limited to only 2 cupcakes at most. I don't see the SEC doing both moves. So, I am rooting for the SEC moving to 9 conference games to even things out between the two power conferences. With the expanding playoffs, most teams are going to schedule at least one legitimate non-con game anyway.

 

[kicker22]

I think a lot of these concerns get solved if the SEC moves to 9 conference games AND there is a mandatory crossover game between the conferences. Then, you are limited to only 2 cupcakes at most. I don't see the SEC doing both moves. So, I am rooting for the SEC moving to 9 conference games to even things out between the two power conferences. With the expanding playoffs, most teams are going to schedule at least one legitimate non-con game anyway.

My biggest issue with the SEC isn't necessarily the scheduling of the cupcakes, but rather the timing of the games. Absolutely no reason that any team should be scheduling cupcakes in the final 3rd of the season or after they've already got 9 or 10 games under their belt. I agree that it would definitely help if the SEC were mandated to play an additional conference game, but it's an absolute embarrassment, and black eye to the sport, for them to play those games that late in the year. They've already got a shortened conference season there's absolutely no way to justify it.

 

[NorthKCHawk]

My biggest issue with the SEC isn't necessarily the scheduling of the cupcakes, but rather the timing of the games. Absolutely no reason that any team should be scheduling cupcakes in the final 3rd of the season or after they've already got 9 or 10 games under their belt. I agree that it would definitely help if the SEC were mandated to play an additional conference game, but it's an absolute embarrassment, and black eye to the sport, for them to play those games that late in the year. They've already got a shortened conference season there's absolutely no way to justify it.

I guess I don't care about the timing of when you play SW Alabama St. My problem with those late season cupcakes is that we all know what they are. A bye week in the middle of the conference slate so they don't have to play 9 games like the Big 10. If the rules are the same for both conferences at 9 games, I don't see a reason to micromanage when a team schedules its lesser opponents. A cupcake is just as cupcakey in November as in August.