LutherHawk
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For someone so concerned about the pussification of America, you sure are acting like a sensitive little baby. 'oh my god, Duff made a sarcastic comment about my pseudo internet tough guy comment. Where are my tissues?'.
Possible Rules Changes to College Kickoffs
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For someone so concerned about the pussification of America, you sure are acting like a sensitive little baby. 'oh my god, Duff made a sarcastic comment about my pseudo internet tough guy comment. Where are my tissues?'.
LutherHawk
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You sound like a complete masogonist meat stick. Go back to the 13th century, Sir Ignoramous. Better yet - I'll set up a little drill called the Oklahoma tackling drill for you with a couple of Ray Lewis sized linebackers and encourage you to tackle with your head. Problem is, it probably would't rattle the three synaptic connections you have left in your reptilian brain stem.
NewMexHawk
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Something HAS to be done. Guys are getting bigger and bigger and bigger and faster and faster. The collisions on the field today are fierce. Players should not have to take hits like that. The head and body just are not made to sustain hits like we see, nor should college kids be injured so seriously, not so young in their life. College players should not be getting knocked out on the field from getting hit so hard. Some of these injuries can and will have lifetime affects. Many of these players will never play in the NFL so why should they have to suffer such injuries. Football has become a very violent game even at the college level, pro football is pure violence. This has nothing to do with "pussification" of football.
Of course many love to watch the horrible hits; some programs have just that...the biggest and hardest hits and some fans get very excited watching those programs. Of course those same people also love the full contact boxing or whatever it is called and would love to watch something even more violent I would bet if they could get their hands on the stuff.
Kind of like boxers...the head just is not made to take hits to it like a pro boxer can deliver. Is it any wonder that retired boxers are "punch drunk" after getting their brains bounced around in their skulls all those years. If I am not mistaken, science is starting to link Parkensins with head injuries...aka Muhammad Ali and some football players. I don't keep up with medical science so I am not 100% sure of this.
Watch a football game from the early 70's and most of the players are all the same size, on both lines, the running backs, the QB, many of the receirvers and so on. On some teams you will see the beginning of the bigger players on the line or the faster receivers or the freak running backs. Now almost ALL of those players would be below average compared to today's players.
What does that mean for 30 years in the future? Are we looking at 400 pound lineman that are fast as hell? 350 pound Defensive tackles that can run down running backs? 300 pound running backs that can run like receivers? 6'10 inch, 300 pound tight ends that are incredibly athletic? and so on. What does the future hold for college football? Genetics is just going to increase the size, speed, and athleticism of players.
Same with BB...30 years from now...will people like Kobe Bryant be the norm; centers like Shaq the norm? 6'8" point guards the norm? What kind of player will be the "special" player, the Michael Jordan of the future? Can you imagine?
Of course many love to watch the horrible hits; some programs have just that...the biggest and hardest hits and some fans get very excited watching those programs. Of course those same people also love the full contact boxing or whatever it is called and would love to watch something even more violent I would bet if they could get their hands on the stuff.
Kind of like boxers...the head just is not made to take hits to it like a pro boxer can deliver. Is it any wonder that retired boxers are "punch drunk" after getting their brains bounced around in their skulls all those years. If I am not mistaken, science is starting to link Parkensins with head injuries...aka Muhammad Ali and some football players. I don't keep up with medical science so I am not 100% sure of this.
Watch a football game from the early 70's and most of the players are all the same size, on both lines, the running backs, the QB, many of the receirvers and so on. On some teams you will see the beginning of the bigger players on the line or the faster receivers or the freak running backs. Now almost ALL of those players would be below average compared to today's players.
What does that mean for 30 years in the future? Are we looking at 400 pound lineman that are fast as hell? 350 pound Defensive tackles that can run down running backs? 300 pound running backs that can run like receivers? 6'10 inch, 300 pound tight ends that are incredibly athletic? and so on. What does the future hold for college football? Genetics is just going to increase the size, speed, and athleticism of players.
Same with BB...30 years from now...will people like Kobe Bryant be the norm; centers like Shaq the norm? 6'8" point guards the norm? What kind of player will be the "special" player, the Michael Jordan of the future? Can you imagine?
archiehawk
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Talk about fixing something that isn't broke. The helmut rule is about as duumb as it gets.
big10fan
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CG, I follow you. It is a delicate issue for sure. I have a unique viewpoint looking at it from a physical therapy perspective, so that's where I'm coming from. The NFL for almost 15 years ignored the research out there on head injuries. The very real threat of very valid lawsuits is what is having them change their tune. It will be impossible to avoid concussions completely, but the goal is to make it as safe as possible, and that is where the real argument starts.
Here's a little something I wrote up awhile ago on it. I don't claim to know how to fix it, just pointing out the very real dangers of concussions.
http://www.hawkeyenation.com/forum/blogs/big10fan/214-concussions-sports.html
Here's a little something I wrote up awhile ago on it. I don't claim to know how to fix it, just pointing out the very real dangers of concussions.
http://www.hawkeyenation.com/forum/blogs/big10fan/214-concussions-sports.html
Kickoffs will continue to allow for the onside kick. That is probably about the only reason.
One rule they could change to make kickoffs safer would to change the free kick out of bounds rule. For instance they could change the rule that the ball is spotted where it went out or as a touchback if it goes out inside the 25 yard line. Or make it a five yard penalty and spot it at the 30.
Basically you have to allow teams that don't have a kicker with a strong leg a safe kick out. And yes, there are plenty of college kickers who can't reach the endzone from the 35.
Of course this is all predicated on THEIR OBJECTIVE of making kickoffs safer.
One rule they could change to make kickoffs safer would to change the free kick out of bounds rule. For instance they could change the rule that the ball is spotted where it went out or as a touchback if it goes out inside the 25 yard line. Or make it a five yard penalty and spot it at the 30.
Basically you have to allow teams that don't have a kicker with a strong leg a safe kick out. And yes, there are plenty of college kickers who can't reach the endzone from the 35.
Of course this is all predicated on THEIR OBJECTIVE of making kickoffs safer.
silvanthalas
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Seems like much of this is based on the changes the NFL has made in the last year or two. It was only a matter of time before the NCAA borrowed some if not all of them.
Yes, injuries in all sports are a problem, but to call it 'pussification' to want to cut down on concussions shows gross ignorance of a real problem.
But then, as a recent study done at Purdue showed, the repetitive nature of hits without concussions may in fact be even more dangerous than receiving a concussion. The concussion forces you to sit for awhile and let your brain heal.
Linemen in football, soccer players, boxers... repetitive blows of any kind to the noggin are bad for you.
Yes, injuries in all sports are a problem, but to call it 'pussification' to want to cut down on concussions shows gross ignorance of a real problem.
But then, as a recent study done at Purdue showed, the repetitive nature of hits without concussions may in fact be even more dangerous than receiving a concussion. The concussion forces you to sit for awhile and let your brain heal.
Linemen in football, soccer players, boxers... repetitive blows of any kind to the noggin are bad for you.
