Poll: Nebraska/Frost: Would you rather?

[Ben Rumson]

I think if they want to get back to O-line, D and power run and Big 10 style then Les Miles would be a better fit then any.

 

[BlindDogScooter]

I see several comments about Nebraska's tradition but does that tradition mean anything at all to today's recruits? The class of '18 wasn't even born the last time Nebraska was relevant on the national scene.

As for the poll... I'm always up for watching the Bug Eaters wail and moan so my vote is for Frost to dump them like a cheap date.

 

[ssckelley]

No, it won't. They have money and tradition. They just need a coach who can recruit and won't lose.

Look. Every program gets 85 schollies, is on T.V. every weekend, and had league revenue sharing. Every team buys 3 wins a year. All ANY team anywhere needs is a coach who the blue chips think will get them famous enough for the league to come calling. That's vastly easier at traditional schools because they are talked about nationally.

If Nebby gets ten wins into the season, just watch the national media and hype train Stuart rolling. If that ever happens again, Iowa is done in the West. Don't kid yourselves. Nebraska is a sleeping giant, who, unlike us, does not care how they win.

So who is this coach that is going to bring them back to glory? Frost?

They are freaking Nebraska, they no longer have that recruiting train of studs coming out of the south anymore and they cannot rely on their home state. Heck they don't even own western Iowa anymore as ISU has been picking up steam on that side of the state.

Their glory days of the 70, 80, and 90s are over. They will never be a Michigan or Ohio State again, they simply do not have the recruiting base for it.

 

[SmokeTownHawk]

It's kinda like when people on here said we were great in the 80s so that's what we should expect. You can't expect the highest of highs in the history of your program to be your average seasons. There is a reason they were your highest highs. Nebraska had a perfect storm of luck go their way to make them who they were, but it was never going to be sustainable. Just like Wisconsin now. Sometime in the next 10-30 years, they will be somewhere between middle of the pack to bottom of the pack. They have too many disadvantages to sustain that level of success for too long.

Not only a perfect storm but an entirely different playing field. Vast numbers of walk-ons, scholarships northwards of 100+, not to mention the infamous partial qualifiers. When waxing nostalgic about the good old days at UNL one will encounter more than a few winks when talking about Bob Devaney; the insinuation being all bets are off when discussing how the boundaries were pushed and evaded back in the day.

With Wisconsin when Barry retires so will his system, whatever that may be, along with the Badgers dominance in the West.

 

[cincyhawk]

I'm gonna hate myself for saying this, I HATE Nebraska and their entitled fans, but I gotta disagree with you a little. Being in the Big 12 Nebraska had a good pipeline of recruits coming out of the south which dried up once they moved to the Big Ten. Firing Solich also had a huge negative impact as it started their coaching carousal and then they screwed up again firing Bo Pelini.

They are now a program in shambles, they've lost their reputation to recruits losing ground to both Iowa AND Iowa State. Kids don't care that they were good back in the 90s.

Lololol.

So who is this coach that is going to bring them back to glory? Frost?

They are freaking Nebraska, they no longer have that recruiting train of studs coming out of the south anymore and they cannot rely on their home state. Heck they don't even own western Iowa anymore as ISU has been picking up steam on that side of the state.

Their glory days of the 70, 80, and 90s are over. They will never be a Michigan or Ohio State again, they simply do not have the recruiting base for it.

In state recruiting didn't matter in the 80's. Look, they are 9th all time in wins. And if you had to choose between ISU or Nebraska, you would be stupid to not choose Nebraska. They win 9 games a year already. Hayden turned a perpetual loser into the #1 team in the country in the Midwest when there weren't limited Schollies. They get a good coach (and Frost looks like a good one), and they'll be right back at it again. Hell, he nearly got Oregon a title. That's a state with even more disadvantages.

 

[hawkeyemark]

No, it won't. They have money and tradition. They just need a coach who can recruit and won't lose.

Look. Every program gets 85 schollies, is on T.V. every weekend, and had league revenue sharing. Every team buys 3 wins a year. All ANY team anywhere needs is a coach who the blue chips think will get them famous enough for the league to come calling. That's vastly easier at traditional schools because they are talked about nationally.

If Nebby gets ten wins into the season, just watch the national media and hype train Stuart rolling. If that ever happens again, Iowa is done in the West. Don't kid yourselves. Nebraska is a sleeping giant, who, unlike us, does not care how they win.

You have it right about media hype if they get Scott Frost which I still have doubts about but we'll see. Although part of it stems from self promotion look at the hype Fleck got this season as the young up and comer now in a power 5 program. The Big Ten needs and wants Nebraska to become a player again in football and BTN will do their part as well. You also have it right that Nebraska has more of a win at all costs attitude than we do. All of this doesn't necessarily overcome the built in disadvantages that come with the Nebraska job but it does mean the landscape will change. Bill Voos took the AD job at his age with one mission IMO- to get the Husker football program back on track one way or the other.

 

[cincyhawk]

You have it right about media hype if they get Scott Frost which I still have doubts about but we'll see. Although part of it stems from self promotion look at the hype Fleck got this season as the young up and comer now in a power 5 program. The Big Ten needs and wants Nebraska to become a player again in football and BTN will do their part as well. You also have it right that Nebraska has more of a win at all costs attitude than we do. All of this doesn't necessarily overcome the built in disadvantages that come with the Nebraska job but it does mean the landscape will change. Bill Voos took the AD job at his age with one mission IMO- to get the Husker football program back on track one way or the other.

I look at their program like it is a cornered, wounded, man-eating tiger. You don't let that thing get too close to you. You shoot it right between the eyes like we did Saturday, so that if they do break out again, while recruiting you can say, but they can't beat us. We didn't put Wisconsin or NW or MSU down, now look at them.

 

[MoseSchrute]

She's from Maine.

That figures. Note to self...don't go to Huskerboard for facts.

 

[hawkeyemark]

I look at their program like it is a cornered, wounded, man-eating tiger. You don't let that thing get too close to you. You shoot it right between the eyes like we did Saturday, so that if they do break out again, while recruiting you can say, but they can't beat us. We didn't put Wisconsin or NW or MSU down, now look at them.

I think Iowa needs to continue to evolve with the money flowing into the conference the way it does and everyone around us seemingly outside of Illinois upgrading their programs. Kirk I think knows this but hasn't fully embraced stepping out of his comfort zone which we saw this season. I think we have some bright young football minds on the staff now who can steer this program and Kirk in the right direction while maintaining our identity and doing things the right way in the Iowa tradition. Kids still relate to people treating them the right way and caring about their future which I think can still carry the day when it comes to recruiting. How we proceed from here really matters and bares watching.

 

[ssckelley]

Lololol.


In state recruiting didn't matter in the 80's. Look, they are 9th all time in wins. And if you had to choose between ISU or Nebraska, you would be stupid to not choose Nebraska. They win 9 games a year already. Hayden turned a perpetual loser into the #1 team in the country in the Midwest when there weren't limited Schollies. They get a good coach (and Frost looks like a good one), and they'll be right back at it again. Hell, he nearly got Oregon a title. That's a state with even more disadvantages.

Of course it didn't matter in the 80s they had a pipeline from the south. Today's recruits don't care about what Nebraska did in the 90s, they care about programs on the rise, playing time, and their best chance to get to the next level. I think you're giving Nebraska way to much credit, they are at the same level as Iowa now.

 

[cincyhawk]

Of course it didn't matter in the 80s they had a pipeline from the south. Today's recruits don't care about what Nebraska did in the 90s, they care about programs on the rise, playing time, and their best chance to get to the next level. I think you're giving Nebraska way to much credit, they are at the same level as Iowa now.

No, they aren't. Nebraska was 10 - 0 and the media would be tripping over themselves to get them on the playoff. Wisconsin and Iowa go 10 - 0, they are called fakes. Perception matters.

 

[Joshbrown]

I think you're giving Nebraska way to much credit, they are at the same level as Iowa now.

I know in your mind that comparison was a little bit of a compliment toward Iowa. But actually it was a huge insult. Accurate, but a painful reminder of how irrelevant we are under the current leadership.

 

[judzeehawk]

The fuskers should be a laughing stock the way they are acting. People bitch about 4 mil a year for our terrible coach and just how much has those fuskers spent? Just how many are they paying all at one time. Ridiculous! effing losers! It's getting out of hand. Corp's pay a lot of money just to keep that phony sellout afloat just to keep their image going. Wish they never would of got into this conference. All said and done I'd rather be a Hawk fan with our captain and keep on plugging along. I'll keep my fingers crossed things keep moving towards progress and we keep humiliating those fuskers! Done ranting.

 

[hawkinn3]

I’ll take option C. He goes but leaves for a better job after 1 year.

 

[ssckelley]

No, they aren't. Nebraska was 10 - 0 and the media would be tripping over themselves to get them on the playoff. Wisconsin and Iowa go 10 - 0, they are called fakes. Perception matters.

Media is down on Nebraska right now, it's going to take a lot to get them back to a power house and I don't think they'll ever get back to the level they were at in the 90s.

I know in your mind that comparison was a little bit of a compliment toward Iowa. But actually it was a huge insult. Accurate, but a painful reminder of how irrelevant we are under the current leadership.

How was that a compliment towards Iowa? We are not a football powerhouse, never was and probably never will be.

 

[cincyhawk]

Media is down on Nebraska right now, it's going to take a lot to get them back to a power house and I don't think they'll ever get back to the level they were at in the 90s.



How was that a compliment towards Iowa? We are not a football powerhouse, never was and probably never will be.

They may have had the greatest team ever in the 90s. Hard to duplicate that wherever you are.