Poll: KF has turned into Steve Alford?

KF has turned into Steve Alford?

  • Nope. Steve's teams were fun to watch.

    Votes: 11 27.5%
  • Yep.

    Votes: 5 12.5%
  • Heading in that direction

    Votes: 12 30.0%
  • Wrong you idiot. He has turned into Tom Davis.

    Votes: 12 30.0%

  • Total voters
    40
  • Poll closed .

A couple of things; first I was speaking to how Ferentz presents himself around town. You will find very people, if any, with negative things to say about him personally. Alford....quite a few have stories.

Second, tired of the whole Iowa's football team crime nonsense. Most of the brushes with the law were misdemeanors; PAULA violations (being in a bar underage after 10) or public intox. Not the violence that so many other programs have dealt with, including ISU playing felons. Rhabdo has been debated, discredited......I think there was nothing nefarious about the whole issue. And when he did have some serious problems with players doing things off the field, I think he has dealt with them correctly.

I can tear up his coaching style, risk adverse.....conservative to the extreme, favors a good story over talent, boring....and on and on. But as far as his character, I would take him over any coach in the country.
 
Let's see,

Mr. Davis and Kirk:

Neither of them are saints but ahead of the curve in terms of integrity and class.

Neither of them achieved consistent high level of success but better than average in terms of success.

Both stubborn in terms of never changing their offensive and defensive philosophies even after opposing teams found ways to exploit them.

Both had/have segments of the fan base which hate them and want them gone ASAP despite better than average success.

Seems like a really good comparison.
 
A couple of things; first I was speaking to how Ferentz presents himself around town. You will find very people, if any, with negative things to say about him personally. Alford....quite a few have stories.

Second, tired of the whole Iowa's football team crime nonsense. Most of the brushes with the law were misdemeanors; PAULA violations (being in a bar underage after 10) or public intox. Not the violence that so many other programs have dealt with, including ISU playing felons. Rhabdo has been debated, discredited......I think there was nothing nefarious about the whole issue. And when he did have some serious problems with players doing things off the field, I think he has dealt with them correctly.

I can tear up his coaching style, risk adverse.....conservative to the extreme, favors a good story over talent, boring....and on and on. But as far as his character, I would take him over any coach in the country.

Character to mean isn't demanding a huge buy out clause from the University that has stuck by you through thick and thin. But maybe there is not a coach in the country who would not demand the same. Anyway, I suppose the University was right to give in. Where else are we going to find a coach who can win 50% of their games against ISU?
 
Character to mean isn't demanding a huge buy out clause from the University that has stuck by you through thick and thin. But maybe there is not a coach in the country who would not demand the same. Anyway, I suppose the University was right to give in. Where else are we going to find a coach who can win 50% of their games against ISU?

Pretty sure a buyout clause is standard operating procedure for any coach of a major college program as well as most executives at major corporations. I would question his intelligence if he didn't have one.
 
KF and Alford both "set for life" and content with their "spun" Iowa coaching records...

There you have it...
 
Vanilla. Fans unhappy with boring style and not enough wins. Nepotism.

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--------When did KF ever look for an NFL job since he has been at Iowa?

You didn't pay attention....I never said looking "for"NFL jobs....I said looking "at"....there is a difference. He NEVER said he wasn't interested when his name kept swirling around first the Jacksonville and then later the KC job, when he could have put all the talk to bed. But no, he used it as leverage to steal more millions.
 
From Dec 2004.

http://qctimes.com/sports/football/...cle_415eeaf4-6d0f-5df3-995c-6c3f6c50fde4.html

Base salary

Ferentz earns $1.2 million per year, including income from apparel and endorsement contracts, summer camps, radio and television programs and appearances at fund-raising functions such as I-Club outings. The university pays for the remaining dollars from funds generated by the football program.

Fringe benefits

He receives two automobiles with all insurance paid, complimentary membership for himself and his family at the University Athletic Club, complimentary travel for six guests on the team plane or bus to regular-season road games (subject to space availability), complimentary travel to road games for his spouse aboard the team's mode of transportation at his discretion, 20 tickets to each home game, and exclusive use of one viewing box at Kinnick Stadium for all home games.

Longevity bonus

Ferentz receives a $400,000 bonus on June 1 of every calendar year he remains an employee of the university.

Bowl, graduation bonuses

Ferentz is paid a bonus if his team plays in a bowl game and has a four-year graduation average of 55 percent or better. (Iowa had a 58-percent four-year graduation rate in the 2004 NCAA survey.) A breakdown by years, as specified in the contract:

July 1, 2005 — $100,000

July 1, 2006 — $140,000

July 1, 2007 — $180,000

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I imagine most of us today are making 4 times as much as we did before the recession. Seriously, how come more of us on this board didn't get into coaching???????
 
Difference is that Ferments didn't "personally"go around town expecting merchants to give him things like Alfraud did....he had had a middle man try and get his son discounted housing and cheat the tax payers..
And step over nepotism rules by the university with his hire at offensive line...
 
Zing. 18yrs old and I still have never shaved.:D
Finally, someone to bring some cheer to this place by pointing out we have a Tom Davis future staring us in the face. But didn't Tom put an up-tempo offense on the floor? I'm young so I'm probably wrong.
I believe the OP of this poll may have wanted the comparison of Davis who was good but Iowa fans weren't satisfied with KF who was good but the fans weren't satisfied?

KF Good? I'd say that's a stretch.

Side note: KF and Hayden are alike in one way and different in another.
Alike: neither coach knows that much about the mechanics of football.
Not Alike: Hayden realized his deficiencies and delegated work to those more capable than himself.
KF still demands a firm hold on every stinkin' facet of the Iowa program.
 
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