Per Davis: Rudock's One Advantage Over CJ...

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iowalaw

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Davis admits that CJ always had the better arm than Rudock. However, Rudock got to see virtually all meaningful snaps for the past two years because...Jake was better able to change the plays at the line of scrimmage!??? LOL

I must have posted on this site after 7 games last year pointing out how TERRIBLE Jake was at calling audibles...and that virtually every single time he called an audible, he changed the play to a run up the middle on the left side for a gain of 1 or 2 yards. This happened over and over and over again. He would literally change a play from pass to run when the other team called for a run blitz.

If that is the best reason Davis had for playing Jake over CJ, I have to wonder if he is just covering for the fact that Kirt wouldn't let him play CJ??
 
iowalaw said:
Davis admits that CJ always had the better arm than Rudock. However, Rudock got to see virtually all meaningful snaps for the past two years because...Jake was better able to change the plays at the line of scrimmage!??? LOL

I must have posted on this site after 7 games last year pointing out how TERRIBLE Jake was at calling audibles...and that virtually every single time he called an audible, he changed the play to a run up the middle on the left side for a gain of 1 or 2 yards. This happened over and over and over again. He would literally change a play from pass to run when the other team called for a run blitz.

If that is the best reason Davis had for playing Jake over CJ, I have to wonder if he is just covering for the fact that Kirt wouldn't let him play CJ??
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Not disagreeing with you, but I did want to point out that many of his audibles were dummy audibles. When he'd see someone blitzing into the play, he'd audible, which would often make that player call off the blitz.

On others that were changed, as you said, from a pass to a run, just curious how you know the original play. Did Kirk talk about it in a post game, etc? Again not disagreeing or trying to flame. Just curious.
 
always loved that audible into the stretch play directly into the short side of the field for no gain.

Gold...pure gold.
 
hawkdrummer1 said:
always loved that audible into the stretch play directly into the short side of the field for no gain.

Gold...pure gold.
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I luv the Seinfeld reference to comedian Banya " gold pure gold Jerry".

Now back to the thread, JR showed in 2013 he was a very competent QB and he made a huge improvement in 2014 in his TD to INT ratio, but he also showed a huge propensity to go into a shell and not even get first downs. That is when CJ needed to come into the game. The coaches saw the spark in the 2nd half of the Pitt game so why not put in your relief pitcher in games like Maryland, Minny, Nebby etc
 
uihawk82 said:
I luv the Seinfeld reference to comedian Banya " gold pure gold Jerry".

Now back to the thread, JR showed in 2013 he was a very competent QB and he made a huge improvement in 2014 in his TD to INT ratio, but he also showed a huge propensity to go into a shell and not even get first downs. That is when CJ needed to come into the game. The coaches saw the spark in the 2nd half of the Pitt game so why not put in your relief pitcher in games like Maryland, Minny, Nebby etc
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This is as good as any example... of why people have had it with KFz. He refuses to recognize the obvious and has no feel for the game. Just put your head down and keep doing the same damn thing...over and over.
 
Some of the audibles were ridiculous. Defenses would shift around a little, threaten a blitz, make Rudock nervous enough to change the play, then they would shut down the play. The defense knew that the audible would never include a deep throw to a WR. We put no pressure on the defense because we run an offense predicated on play makers beating a defender one-on-one. We do NOT have those play makers.
 
This has been the same with every Iowa QB for a long time. Same audibles, same blitzes, same stuff. Its not a Ruddock thing.
 
hawkdrummer1 said:
always loved that audible into the stretch play directly into the short side of the field for no gain.

Gold...pure gold.
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I gave you a
latest
for accuracy ...

... but I HATE you for reminding me of this pathetic truth.:mad:
 
hawkdrummer1 said:
always loved that audible into the stretch play directly into the short side of the field for no gain.

Gold...pure gold.
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They like running behind their best lineman(usually the LT). I have more an issue when they run it with backs that aren't suited for a one cutback scheme. Watching Coker/Wiesman plodding along was frustrating to watch.

It did occasionally work when Fred Russell ran behind Gallery he was able to find a lane and scoot 4 or 5 yards.
 
iowalaw said:
Davis admits that CJ always had the better arm than Rudock. However, Rudock got to see virtually all meaningful snaps for the past two years because...Jake was better able to change the plays at the line of scrimmage!??? LOL

I must have posted on this site after 7 games last year pointing out how TERRIBLE Jake was at calling audibles...and that virtually every single time he called an audible, he changed the play to a run up the middle on the left side for a gain of 1 or 2 yards. This happened over and over and over again. He would literally change a play from pass to run when the other team called for a run blitz.

If that is the best reason Davis had for playing Jake over CJ, I have to wonder if he is just covering for the fact that Kirt wouldn't let him play CJ??
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He's covering. As he should. He's not the HC, he's the OC. His answer otherwise makes very little sense. I recall in 2013 Beathard was praised by the coaches for an audible he called in the Nebraska game that led to a Canzeri run down the sidelines to ice the game. I recall Beathard audibling to a QB bootleg for a TD against Purdue that year, which led to Ferentz apologizing to Purdue's HC after the game. How short of a leash was Beathard on last year when he was put in the game? Hard to call a lot of audibles when you're not allowed to play. Sorry, but Beathard was the better QB last year, and I believe (meaning - my opinion) would have resulted in 2 more wins (ISU and Nebraska) if he played in those games. Rudock seems like a good guy, and while not a bad QB, was/is not as good as Beathard.
 
trj said:
This.......Stanzi,Tate and Banks were making the same audibles.
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Yep. And it was a bad call then too. (wasn't meant to be a knock on Rudock...only on the audibles that supposedly gave him an edge on CJ)

Worked a little better with the best o-line in the country (Banks) but still a worthless call...plays right into the defenses hands. Short side runs in college ball only work when there's a serious overload to the wide side or a misdirection that pulls the defense that way. The hash marks are closer to the sidelines than in the NFL. Running behind your best O-lineman is great... but he can't block 4 guys.

KFz teaches the QB to count the 7 back defenders and if there are fewer on the short side, to audible a run into that side. Problem is...there are fewer players on that "weak" side...because there's only 60% as much space! (60 feet vs 100 feet). so OF COURSE there are fewer defenders on that side. End result 80% of the time is a pile up for no gain.
 
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hawkdrummer1 said:
KFz teaches the QB to count the 7 back defenders and if there are fewer on the short side, to audible a run into that side. Problem is...there are fewer players on that "weak" side...because there's only 60% as much space! (60 feet vs 100 feet). so OF COURSE there are fewer defenders on that side. End result 80% of the time is a pile up for no gain.
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That's a lot of math. Perhaps that has been the problem. Too much math.
 
DJL said:
60% of the time, it doesn't work every time.
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yes, this thread is good for a chuckle. Iowa is clearly the only team that isn't successful on all of it's audibles. There is plenty to pick at in the program and everyone has their opinion. However, a constant is the board proves over and over again that very few understand the complexity of what happens within each game, play by play, at this level.
 
cecilB said:
yes, this thread is good for a chuckle. Iowa is clearly the only team that isn't successful on all of it's audibles. There is plenty to pick at in the program and everyone has their opinion. However, a constant is the board proves over and over again that very few understand the complexity of what happens within each game, play by play, at this level.
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It still comes down to end results. It doesn't matter if it's complex or simple, it's about results. While most of us unwashed probably don't understand the complexities of which you speak, and while that may serve as a source of a good chuckle to some, the end result has not been very funny. That's what people do understand.
 
trj said:
They like running behind their best lineman(usually the LT). I have more an issue when they run it with backs that aren't suited for a one cutback scheme. Watching Coker/Wiesman plodding along was frustrating to watch.

It did occasionally work when Fred Russell ran behind Gallery he was able to find a lane and scoot 4 or 5 yards.
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I share your frustration (though mine has devolved into outright rage) over such an incompetent mismatch of personnel to strategy -- consistently asking unathletic backs with average physical capabilities to perform like scat-backs. It's too bad the coaches and / or Jake created additional obstacles to success by almost always checking to the short side, let alone, which usually turned out to be the RT, not LT.
Then again, why would you want to attempt such an already limited play behind your All-American, Outland Trophy winning LT -- that's just too darned obvious.
 
cecilB said:
yes, this thread is good for a chuckle. Iowa is clearly the only team that isn't successful on all of it's audibles. There is plenty to pick at in the program and everyone has their opinion. However, a constant is the board proves over and over again that very few understand the complexity of what happens within each game, play by play, at this level.
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I do understand that IOWA runs that play so predictably that not only defenses see it coming...I've heard fans in the stands call it out regularly in advance of the snap. Even with a stud like Scherff @ left tackle...it usually goes nowhere.

I also understand that if they ran a counter, play-action, showed that look and and went elsewhere it might serve a broader purpose. But that hasn't happened in a few years. The last time we saw any misdirection off that...the QB "waggle" bag the other way...for example... was pre-Davis.

I also know that having heard the same from players,other coaches and broadcasters (which are usually former players and coaches)...there's some validity to it.
 
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