Penn State sanctions
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kicker22
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On the criminal side I agree. But at the same time as I stated earlier, I don't see the legal system punishing a university that benefitted by these individuals turning a blind eye and letting it go on.
Maybe as you say its not the NCAAs place to intervene, but at the same time IMO by only punishing the individuals involved the university, who greatly benefitted from the stream of revenue generated while these so called "leaders" and faces of the university stood by and did absolutely nothing. I guess I look at it from an angle of how to keep something like this from being covered up elsewhere as athletics and the revenues they create can greatly influence things are handled.
In this situation an athletic program trumped ethics, morality, and the due process by covering it up. A university let prestige and the revenue generated by an athletic department mask the horrors that were going on and I simply feel that the university as a whole deserved to be punished based on the actions of the faces of the university that looked the other way.
Maybe as you say its not the NCAAs place to intervene, but at the same time IMO by only punishing the individuals involved the university, who greatly benefitted from the stream of revenue generated while these so called "leaders" and faces of the university stood by and did absolutely nothing. I guess I look at it from an angle of how to keep something like this from being covered up elsewhere as athletics and the revenues they create can greatly influence things are handled.
In this situation an athletic program trumped ethics, morality, and the due process by covering it up. A university let prestige and the revenue generated by an athletic department mask the horrors that were going on and I simply feel that the university as a whole deserved to be punished based on the actions of the faces of the university that looked the other way.
HawkeyeMike23
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Don't worry champ, I don't think you'll be out on the field at Beaver Stadium again.
No, none of those are institutional penalties. The $60 million in penalties and loss of scholarships are institutional penalties. Apparently, it's a tough concept for you to grasp. Nobody cares about the vacated wins, not my idea.
HawkeyeMike23
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Yep, nothing fits the crime of covering up a serial child rapist like losing a few football scholarships.
kicker22
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Starting to get the feeling HawkeyeMike is a PSU apologist. Based on what I've seen in the last couple posts I'm starting to think you're absolutely right. Since all the individuals have been let go or dealt with, its only fair that PSU be reimbursed for all these hardships they've had to undergo. I mean all the athletic department has ever done is hurt the reputation of the University and drain them financially. I think we should give them all the money back plus some and give them some extra scholarships.
Nothing justifies a university's cover up of serial child rapist like losing a few football scholarships so its only fair to reward the University for its exceptional job of looking the other way.
HawkeyeMike23
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Are you talking to yourself here? I think everyone involved in covering this up deserves to be in jail for a long time, I think this case is much, much more serious than anything the NCAA polices. This is something that can only be appropriately handled by the court system, not by an organization that exists to make sure athletes maintain their amateur status.
docholihawk
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Penn State sanctions were revised for good behavior. Isn't good behavior the minimum standard we should be held to. Good behavior should be demanded not rewarded. What the NCAA did is a slap in the face to each of the victims. You can punish the actions of the school. Reduction of scholarships hurts the people who would go to Penn State who had nothing to do with the cover-up. In my opinion Penn State should have had to take the money they would have spent on scholarships and provided scholarships at smaller schools who can't provide scholarships for athletes and students.
hawkfan340
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I don't think there's much deterrent effect, if any at all. No one is going to make a hiring decision based on the potential for a $60M fine for covering up a sex crime.
I think it's much simpler, people were outraged and the NCAA was worried about backlash and did some CYA even though it made no logical sense. Outrage does not typically lead to rational decisions and that's what we had here, imo.
Are you kidding? People should be outraged. It's one of the most outrageous cover-ups in history. Since they can't burn the place to the ground, penalties will have to do. Not a single person has been punished for the cover-up yet and the man who made everything possible, Joe Paterno, is dead.
hawkfan340
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People can be outraged, but making decisions based on outrage very rarely leads to a rational outcome. People are still outraged at Penn St. and even outraged that some penalties have been reduced, but without Googling they likely have no idea of the legal status of the administrators involved in the cover-up. That would indicate to me that people still aren't thinking clearly about this.
HawkeyeMike23
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It's the twitter generation, they want something done now. Who cares if it's fair, or within the NCAA's power, just do something. Then five minutes later they've moved on and completely forgot about it. They don't have time to let this thing play out through the proper legal channels.
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DDThompson
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With all the mea culpas and reversing of sanctions against PSU in another year not only will they get all their scholarships back, but the National Title will be handed over to them.
Rosebowler
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The NCAA should have given PSU a permanent death penalty.
Rosebowler
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You had me until that part. That's just stupid.
