Paul Chryst Would Look Damn Fine In Black And Gold.

[MelroseHawkins]

I think Paul Chryst would look damn fine in Black and Gold! That's just me.

Here is what I put in another thread. Very valid reasons why he would be a good fit.............and for Kirk Ferentz. Not all would.

I am not sure this would ever happen, but I wonder. Paul Chryst is out of a head job now. Would Kirk bring him in as OC since he has ties to the BIG, is disgruntled toward Wisky and prob runs the most similar kind of style that Iowa does in FBS? Chryst may be one of a few that could run what KF wants (this in KF's eyes), has a proven track record as OC, and could be a yes man to KF. He might be the most natural fit. I feel Ferentz has a lot of respect for Chryst and thinks he was wronged. I think Chryst prob has a lot of respect for Ferentz.

Pair him with that advisor/coach Budmayer and you have a natural situation and a couple guys who would really boner up when playing Wisky, who typically is vying for the top spot in the division.

This may be the play. MAKE IT HAPPEN BARTA! Go get him while you can.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

I think Paul Chryst would look damn fine in Black and Gold! That's just me.

Here is what I put in another thread. Very valid reasons why he would be a good fit.............and for Kirk Ferentz. Not all would.

I am not sure this would ever happen, but I wonder. Paul Chryst is out of a head job now. Would Kirk bring him in as OC since he has ties to the BIG, is disgruntled toward Wisky and prob runs the most similar kind of style that Iowa does in FBS? Chryst may be one of a few that could run what KF wants (this in KF's eyes), has a proven track record as OC, and could be a yes man to KF. He might be the most natural fit. I feel Ferentz has a lot of respect for Chryst and thinks he was wronged. I think Chryst prob has a lot of respect for Ferentz.

Pair him with that advisor/coach Budmayer and you have a natural situation and a couple guys who would really boner up when playing Wisky, who typically is vying for the top spot in the division.

This may be the play. MAKE IT HAPPEN BARTA! Go get him while you can.

I totally see what you're saying. However I think all of what you said being true is also part of why he's no longer at Wisconsin. That style and his inability to develop Qbs either really slowed them down. They were better at developing Olineman and running the ball but they struggled mightily with the QB position too. I think he's 3000 x more qualified then BF so there's that. But the system being so similar I don't think it matters at the end of the day.

 

[Fryowa]

I think Paul Chryst would look damn fine in Black and Gold! That's just me.

Chryst would be a great OC. It would benefit the program. Kirk wouldn't do it because he'd have to fire his son.

Iowa's donors love KF and they'll support whatever he does.

So no Paul Chryst.

This may be the play. MAKE IT HAPPEN BARTA! Go get him while you can.

Not Barta's decision. He's a puppet of Kirk Ferentz and the donors and he's only at Iowa to do two things...raise money for football and supervise boat rowing, golf, and monkey bar contest.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

I totally see what you're saying. However I think all of what you said being true is also part of why he's no longer at Wisconsin. That style and his inability to develop Qbs either really slowed them down. They were better at developing Olineman and running the ball but they struggled mightily with the QB position too. I think he's 3000 x more qualified then BF so there's that. But the system being so similar I don't think it matters at the end of the day.

Yea, I get that. But, I was looking thru the possibilities thru KF eye's, not so much that I agree with it. I now feel they need to evolve to a newer kind of system, but, I don't think KF will do that or has the energy to do that at this point. If Barta demanded that, that might be the thing that makes KF retire, IMO. I agree with all that you point out.

 

[Fryowa]

If Barta demanded that, that might be the thing that makes KF retire, IMO.

See that's where people get it wrong. Barta is a paper tiger when it comes to football; he has zero power. The major donors are all 100% gung ho Ferentz. If he did something off the wall like set an ultimatum for Ferentz or fire his kid against Kirk's wishes...by bye money. And Barta knows it.

To add to that, it's pretty clear to everyone who's followed Iowa sports for the last 15 years that Gary Farta isn't exactly overflowing in the brains department. Is he a guy who you want making decisions about who your next coach should be?

It's the same at nebraska (only the donors want(ed) the coach out). Guarantee you Alberts didn't want to make a move mid-season because he's a football guy and he knows what a disaster it is for recruiting etc.). But when a donor comes forward to pay the buyout and says, "Either the coach goes or my money goes," you have to toe the line.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

Yea, I get that. But, I was looking thru the possibilities thru KF eye's, not so much that I agree with it. I now feel they need to evolve to a newer kind of system, but, I don't think KF will do that or has the energy to do that at this point. If Barta demanded that, that might be the thing that makes KF retire, IMO. I agree with all that you point out.

Yeah Barta is our probably the last option with any kind of change happening. It feels extremely unlikely that he'd call a meeting for KF and BF to come into his office and suggest/demand a change. But if say the right high dollar booster got into Bartas inbox or called him up maybe that's what it'd take?

 

[Hawkfnntn]

See that's where people get it wrong. Barta is a paper tiger when it comes to football; he has zero power. The major donors are all 100% gung ho Ferentz. If he did something off the wall like set an ultimatum for Ferentz or fire his kid against Kirk's wishes...by bye money. And Barta knows it.

To add to that, it's pretty clear to everyone who's followed Iowa sports for the last 15 years that Gary Farta isn't exactly overflowing in the brains department. Is he a guy who you want making decisions about who your next coach should be?

It's the same at nebraska (only the donors want(ed) the coach out). Guarantee you Alberts didn't want to make a move mid-season because he's a football guy and he knows what a disaster it is for recruiting etc.). But when a donor comes forward to pay the buyout and says, "Either the coach goes or my money goes," you have to toe the line.

Yeah the $ drives the bus and that's what got Barta in that job and has kept him there. He's good at greasing those wheels and pretty much nothing else. I can't say for sure if you're right on if that's where the big $ boosters all stand atm. But it makes sense. Can that change though as shit keeps going downhill is the question I have. At what point does some big $ guys say naw BF has to go and if KF won't pull the trigger then he'll need to too. Problem is his buyout and legacy being what they are. It just sucks that this is even a conversation

 

[Fryowa]

I can't say for sure if you're right on if that's where the big $ boosters all stand atm. But it makes sense. Can that change though as shit keeps going downhill is the question I have. At what point does some big $ guys say naw BF has to go and if KF won't pull the trigger then he'll need to too. Problem is his buyout and legacy being what they are. It just sucks that this is even a conversation

I sort of answered this in the other thread, but it's not changing. The biggest of the big donors aren't football people. They're Kirk people.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

I sort of answered this in the other thread, but it's not changing. The biggest of the big donors aren't football people. They're Kirk people.

Yeah I just saw it too. What you wrote makes all the sense in the world or else things wouldn't have gotten to where it has either. I mean things are at defcon 5 yet KF is standing up there like Leslie Nielson without a care in the world. This would be why..

 

[MelroseHawkins]

See that's where people get it wrong. Barta is a paper tiger when it comes to football; he has zero power. The major donors are all 100% gung ho Ferentz. If he did something off the wall like set an ultimatum for Ferentz or fire his kid against Kirk's wishes...by bye money. And Barta knows it.

To add to that, it's pretty clear to everyone who's followed Iowa sports for the last 15 years that Gary Farta isn't exactly overflowing in the brains department. Is he a guy who you want making decisions about who your next coach should be?

It's the same at nebraska (only the donors want(ed) the coach out). Guarantee you Alberts didn't want to make a move mid-season because he's a football guy and he knows what a disaster it is for recruiting etc.). But when a donor comes forward to pay the buyout and says, "Either the coach goes or my money goes," you have to toe the line.

Never said he would. I only stated that it's prob the one thing that would make KF retire. But, I know that ain't happening.

 

[STILLBUSTER]

I totally see what you're saying. However I think all of what you said being true is also part of why he's no longer at Wisconsin. That style and his inability to develop Qbs either really slowed them down. They were better at developing Olineman and running the ball but they struggled mightily with the QB position too. I think he's 3000 x more qualified then BF so there's that. But the system being so similar I don't think it matters at the end of the day.

Considering this to be THEE #1 issue with Iowa's offense right now (and for the past 4-5 seasons), the improvement here would yield incredible results.

Don't know what the hell happened to Iowa's OL - even more mind-boggling it's happened under the Ferentzes - but it is crucial to this entire scheme and offensive philosophy to get it fixed. This, alone, would get the offense back to competent functioning and maybe settle in the 60th-80th comfort zone where the D and ST could do their intended thing.

Iowa, too, has ALWAYS struggled to develop / maintain QB's, so, no big deal that this deficit would continue. However, Chryst was a Big10 QB, so, I'd argue he'd bring something to the table at this postion.

Chryst could slide right in at OC. Keep Brian around as "Co-OC" with emphasize on the OL.

 

[Fryowa]

Literally nothing is going to change as long as KF and BF are in office. To even suggest it is insane.

Kirk even said so after the IL game.

We are stuck with this version of Dorf On Football until those guys leave. The critical thing is who's going to be steering the ship afterwards.

Before this season I'd have said Brian. I don't think that's as much of a possibility anymore. Now I think there's one of two options left.

1) Promote LeVar woods to coordinator while grooming him for OC. This is the most practical, logical, and most likely to succeed and kick off another 25 years of Fry era football with a guy who's proven himself as a stellar recruiter, coach, and leader. All reasons why KF won't do it. I firmly believe he doesn't give two shits about Hawkeye football anymore and he's reached the point where all he wants is to have a statue out front and his kid managing the nut house. And he's prepared to nuke Iowa football to do it.

2) Go searching for the next rising star who'll inevitably turn us into the next Northwestern. People don't seem to understand that the odds of a successful, scandal-free coach that actually sticks around after winning are 1 : millions. But hey, lets roll the dice because it can't get any worse, right?

 

[okeefe4prez]

Considering this to be THEE #1 issue with Iowa's offense right now (and for the past 4-5 seasons), the improvement here would yield incredible results.

It has seemingly happened to everyone in the upper midwest. I think there are a litany of factors. First is the population is flat or shrinking in a lot of places up there. Next is that football participation has fallen off a cliff. Next is that the high school coaches all want to run some gimmicky read option and passing offense and so guys have no clue how to actually block anymore.

Nebraska had stellar lines comprised of local farmboys for decades and now they suck. Wisconsin has disappeared. Iowa has disappeared. Even Fitz can't find 5 guys to play line. Something is up and it ain't just an Iowa issue.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

It has seemingly happened to everyone in the upper midwest. I think there are a litany of factors. First is the population is flat or shrinking in a lot of places up there. Next is that football participation has fallen off a cliff. Next is that the high school coaches all want to run some gimmicky read option and passing offense and so guys have no clue how to actually block anymore.

Nebraska had stellar lines comprised of local farmboys for decades and now they suck. Wisconsin has disappeared. Iowa has disappeared. Even Fitz can't find 5 guys to play line. Something is up and it ain't just an Iowa issue.

Interesting take and yeah Oline play isn't exactly stellar all over the place compared to what it normally is now that you mention it. Ours has been dreadful the last couple yrs and yeah it's not any good at other places where normally it is.

Part of it I think is Dlineman are turning into freaks of athletes. Remember when Javon Kearse and Julius Peppers were coming up? Just how freakish of athletes they were? Well dudes like that are becoming more and more prevalent. Not exactly to their level but you get what I mean. We have Van Ness and guys who are 6'5-275 lbs plus as fast and athletic as they are are just a handful to try and block. They just are and maybe how Olineman are being developed isn't keeping up....

 

[HawkGold]

It has seemingly happened to everyone in the upper midwest. I think there are a litany of factors. First is the population is flat or shrinking in a lot of places up there. Next is that football participation has fallen off a cliff. Next is that the high school coaches all want to run some gimmicky read option and passing offense and so guys have no clue how to actually block anymore.

Nebraska had stellar lines comprised of local farmboys for decades and now they suck. Wisconsin has disappeared. Iowa has disappeared. Even Fitz can't find 5 guys to play line. Something is up and it ain't just an Iowa issue.

It's not as you describe. Actually outside the south, it's the farm boys, rural states that are going to stick with it. I don't know how many of Iowa home grown linemen were actually farm boys, but maybe not as much as one might think. What is gone are the recruits from places like Champaign, Iowa City, Madison.... well almost gone. That is where football participation has dropped off as the higher the education of the parents, the more against playing they will be.

I had 3 stellar athletes with my boys. 6 total concussions. Sports were important to me and important to them a lot due to me. Looking back, I wish I'd never done that.

Schools like NW are going to be the first to get hit. Nebraska is a unique story. Wisky was Barry and only Barry. Illinois is a lot like the old Iowa and they are on the way up. Bret is picking up "farm kids".

About blocking...you are right. Just like kids in BB don't know a thing about blocking out or going base line.

 

[SCHawkeye2]

It will be interesting to see how MN OL plays down the stretch. PJ's has consistently a pretty good size group up front. They did bring in two portal transfers who are starting as well.

 

[trj]

It has seemingly happened to everyone in the upper midwest. I think there are a litany of factors. First is the population is flat or shrinking in a lot of places up there. Next is that football participation has fallen off a cliff. Next is that the high school coaches all want to run some gimmicky read option and passing offense and so guys have no clue how to actually block anymore.

Nebraska had stellar lines comprised of local farmboys for decades and now they suck. Wisconsin has disappeared. Iowa has disappeared. Even Fitz can't find 5 guys to play line. Something is up and it ain't just an Iowa issue.

O-line play across the board (NFL and college) has been trending downwards for at least 5 years. In the NFL, currently there are about 5 teams that have good O-lines, the other 27 teams are patching shit together with bubble gum. Other than what you stated, my reasons for poor o-line play goes as follows: 1) Coaching...the Reese Morgan types aren't there anymore. Old school guys who could teach fundamentals are dwindling away. 2)Safety...full contact during practice is so limited now(college and pro) that it is difficult to coach these guys up.