Passing an undefeated Texas?

[hawkeyegrant]

I'm surprised this is being dismissed so easily. Here's why this is possible:

The computers continue to love Iowa and hate Texas. The love for Iowa is not likely to stay as strong with three remaining home games against weaker opponents. But keep in mind the love for Texas is not going to get any better. In fact, it may get worse. The only remaining ranked team on the schedule is OSU this weekend. After that, it's UCF, at Baylor, Kansas, at Texas A&M, and then the Big 12 championship against a (most likely) unranked opponent. So they'll get a bump after a win this weekend, but that will most likely be the highest they get all year in the computers.

Then take Iowa and figure in that yes, we will most likely not hang on to #1 in 5 of the 6 computer polls. But we won't drop that far. The computers don't care about style points, so a 50 point win is the same as a 1 point win. Our body of work is mainly complete, and continued wins by PSU, ISU, and Wisconsin will help us a ton. Don't forget about Arizona, and imagine if they beat USC on the last game of the year.

Iowa is currently .0678 behind Texas in the BCS. That's it. And we have that small of a margin behind them with a big fat 8 in the Harris poll, and an even uglier 8 from the coaches (who should know better). Iowa only has 4 weeks left, but most of these teams have 5 or 6 chances to lose. TCU has to play Utah. Boise will drop in the coaches and Harris if they even play someone too close. I have a feeling that Cinci is going to lose to Pitt. Oh, and if we beat OSU, we'd jump those teams anyway. If some of these teams drop off, Iowa can get to 3 in the Harris and coaches polls after the SEC championship drops Florida or Bama. I think that makes us pass Texas.

 

[HwkFn4Life]

I'm surprised this is being dismissed so easily. Here's why this is possible:

The computers continue to love Iowa and hate Texas. The love for Iowa is not likely to stay as strong with three remaining home games against weaker opponents. But keep in mind the love for Texas is not going to get any better. In fact, it may get worse. The only remaining ranked team on the schedule is OSU this weekend. After that, it's UCF, at Baylor, Kansas, at Texas A&M, and then the Big 12 championship against a (most likely) unranked opponent. So they'll get a bump after a win this weekend, but that will most likely be the highest they get all year in the computers.

Then take Iowa and figure in that yes, we will most likely not hang on to #1 in 5 of the 6 computer polls. But we won't drop that far. The computers don't care about style points, so a 50 point win is the same as a 1 point win. Our body of work is mainly complete, and continued wins by PSU, ISU, and Wisconsin will help us a ton. Don't forget about Arizona, and imagine if they beat USC on the last game of the year.

Iowa is currently .0678 behind Texas in the BCS. That's it. And we have that small of a margin behind them with a big fat 8 in the Harris poll, and an even uglier 8 from the coaches (who should know better). Iowa only has 4 weeks left, but most of these teams have 5 or 6 chances to lose. TCU has to play Utah. Boise will drop in the coaches and Harris if they even play someone too close. I have a feeling that Cinci is going to lose to Pitt. Oh, and if we beat OSU, we'd jump those teams anyway. If some of these teams drop off, Iowa can get to 3 in the Harris and coaches polls after the SEC championship drops Florida or Bama. I think that makes us pass Texas.

I'd have to agree. If it follows that scenario. thats a lot of games that have to go a certain way. and there will be two consecutive weeks where iowa will have to stand on the sidelines and watch other teams play. You say extra games to lose, but considering most of the teams will be playing championship games, i'm not so sure if it will hurt them if they win. might help them with the pollsters, and iowa will be on the sidelines with their fingers crossed. will give us plenty to talk about though if it all pans out. I get the feeling the pollsters would rather put an undefeated TCU team in ahead of iowa.

 

[croquet037]

I'm surprised this is being dismissed so easily. Here's why this is possible:

The computers continue to love Iowa and hate Texas. The love for Iowa is not likely to stay as strong with three remaining home games against weaker opponents. But keep in mind the love for Texas is not going to get any better. In fact, it may get worse. The only remaining ranked team on the schedule is OSU this weekend. After that, it's UCF, at Baylor, Kansas, at Texas A&M, and then the Big 12 championship against a (most likely) unranked opponent. So they'll get a bump after a win this weekend, but that will most likely be the highest they get all year in the computers.

Then take Iowa and figure in that yes, we will most likely not hang on to #1 in 5 of the 6 computer polls. But we won't drop that far. The computers don't care about style points, so a 50 point win is the same as a 1 point win. Our body of work is mainly complete, and continued wins by PSU, ISU, and Wisconsin will help us a ton. Don't forget about Arizona, and imagine if they beat USC on the last game of the year.

Iowa is currently .0678 behind Texas in the BCS. That's it. And we have that small of a margin behind them with a big fat 8 in the Harris poll, and an even uglier 8 from the coaches (who should know better). Iowa only has 4 weeks left, but most of these teams have 5 or 6 chances to lose. TCU has to play Utah. Boise will drop in the coaches and Harris if they even play someone too close. I have a feeling that Cinci is going to lose to Pitt. Oh, and if we beat OSU, we'd jump those teams anyway. If some of these teams drop off, Iowa can get to 3 in the Harris and coaches polls after the SEC championship drops Florida or Bama. I think that makes us pass Texas.

I'm actually with you on this one. If USC loses, I believe Iowa will jump BOISE, Cincy, and TCU after a win over tOSU. That would make Iowa 4th in the Human Polls.

Then they would jump the loser of the SEC championship...let's just say Alabama...and you'd have Florida #1, Texas #2 and Iowa #3 in the Human polls.

Iowa would still be #1 in the Computers, and I believe Texas would be #4...

1+3+3= 7

4+2+2= 8

Iowa jumps an undefeated Texas team based on that.

I'm certainly not saying that it's for sure...but I think there is a legitimate chance.

 

[Caven]

We will end up #2 in the computers behind the SEC champion since they will get a boost from beating the other SEC team from the top 3. Just based on how the Big 10 and SEC are respectively treated I would also guess that the top 4 in the human polls would be SEC champion, Texas, SEC runner up, Iowa. The question will be how the percentages fall in the human polls because if there are enough people that vote 2, 3, and 4 in various orders the point percentage used for the BCS calculations could end up being very close.

 

[edbob21]

I completly agree. If us and Texas both go undefeated and teams like PSU, Wisconsin and Arizona keep winning, I think we jump Texas. The Hawks control their own destiny on this one.

 

[IATrainMaster101]

If PSU, Zona and Wisc continue to win, and Iowa wins out Iowa's SOS stays pretty high.
Also don't forget that a 5-3 ISU team is 1 game back of K State in the north with Cellar Dwellars A&M, Missou, and Colorado still on tap. ISU has a chance to really help Iowa's cause if they can win 2 of their last 4.

Also Don't rule out LSU winning the SEC. I think they beat Bama, and then Forida in the SEC champ game. Losses this late takes #1 and #2 out of the top spot, moves LSU up and it's down to 2 unbeatens Texas and Iowa, and 1 loss LSU and possibly 1 loss USC (Oregon will either really help them or hurt them which is unfortunate).

Call me crazy but I can see it playing out this way.

I don't mean to dismiss Cincy or Boise, TCU but I don't think they can jump iowa or Texas if both stays unbeaten.

Immagine a 1 loss LSU team with wins over Bama and Florida, Undefeated probably #1 SOS, Iowa with Wins over PSU, OSU, Wisc, ISU, MSU on the road and UA probably #4 SOS overall, and unbeaten Texas winner of the down B12 hanging around between 25 and 35 SOS to wind down the season.

If this plays out (lots of if's) I think Iowa is a lock in a rematch of either Texas or LSU unless voters are so enamored by a win over Oregon that they ignore the fact that Iowa beat all of their Washington quality teams and give USC a free jump.

In short ...Go Iowa!!! Go Everyone Iowa beat (esp Az, PSU, ISU , Wisc)!!!!! go LSU!!!! and go Oregon!!!!

An Arizona win over Oregon or USC would be huge.