Oversigning SEC

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khock

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SEC
(14 Teams)		2015201420132012Total
Alabama24272526102
Tennessee27352122105
Auburn2723232295
Georgia29213319102
LSU2523272499
Texas A&M2522321998
Mississippi St28232128100
Missouri2328201990
Ole Miss2226281995
Florida2024302397
South Carolina3121212598
Arkansas2424232394
Kentucky23282326100
Vanderbilt1822262288
Totals3463473533171363

B1G
(14 Teams)		2015201420132012Total
Ohio St2723242599
Penn St2525171986
Michigan St2022181878
Nebraska2024251786
Wisconsin2025171274
Illinois2417251985
Indiana2226232596
Michigan1416272582
Minnesota2421192791
Rutgers2525221991
Maryland1817222380
Northwestern2015192175
Iowa2119212485
Purdue2619232694
Totals3062943023001202

Over the last 4 recruiting classes:
  • SEC has signed a total of 161 more recruits compared to the BIG over the last 4 years
    • SEC Avg Class Size: 24.3
    • BIG Avg Class Size: 21.5
  • SEC conference schools signed 23 classes with 25 or more players in the last 4 years (B1G had 16)
  • In those 23 classes there were 642 recruits signed (BIG had 409 in the 16)
  • 5 SEC schools have signed over 100 kids in the last 4 years (BIG - zero)
  • SEC conference schools have signed a class with less than 20 recruits 5 times - once since 2012 (BIG 19 times - 13 since 2012)
 


Source.

These guys also count on players blueshirting and players not being able to make it academically. If I remember correctly our newest RB hasn't passed his ACT with acceptable score yet so he's not guaranteed a spot up to this point either.

It's not against the rules and anyone can do it.
 




Sparky said:
Source.

These guys also count on players blueshirting and players not being able to make it academically. If I remember correctly our newest RB hasn't passed his ACT with acceptable score yet so he's not guaranteed a spot up to this point either.

It's not against the rules and anyone can do it.
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Rivals ... and this is based on signed NLOIs
 


khock said:
Rivals ... and this is based on signed NLOIs
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Maybe I'm thinking of grayshirting?

Also, if the player is enrolled in school prior to signing isn't their scholarship counted for the previous year?
 


Sparky said:
Source.

These guys also count on players blueshirting and players not being able to make it academically. If I remember correctly our newest RB hasn't passed his ACT with acceptable score yet so he's not guaranteed a spot up to this point either.

It's not against the rules and anyone can do it.
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ding, ding, you lose.
 






These would only be letters of intent signed. Schools can only have 85 scholarship players in any given year. That means that some of these players end up either as walk-ons or finding another school to play at. I've never really understood how this is allowed. The LOI is supposed to be binding on the player, so why can the schools let kids sign and then pull the offer away? I hate the idea of players getting paid like an employee, but this kind of b.s. certainly shows how the NCAA and it's universities abuse "student-athletes" and why some want them to be paid.
 


Ooooh. Catfight!

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I need some help, sorry. So, to knock this down to one simple example, it shows that 21 kids signed letters of intent with Iowa and then Iowa pulled these 21 letters of intent and told the kids to look elsewhere? So, we had 20 or 21 kids who were accepted into the fold and 21 other who were not?

I apologize for being dense...but I am interested enough in this issue to ask the question.
 


It continues to be a problem. Largely because most SEC and B12 schools(not sure if it's the same with Rhodes but ISU used to be one of the biggest oversigners) are willing to give players the heave ho who are academically eligible but aren't developing up to expectations or simply there's better thought of prospects who'll fill their scholarships. That's a cultural thing that's going to be hard to get rid of. Even when schools offer 4 year scholarships it rarely means a tick up in recruiting. Most players think they're the next Andrew Luck, the next Calvin Johnson. So, they don't feel they have anything to fear. Maybe if they make 4 year scholrships mandatory across the board it will quell some of it but as long as some conferences/coaches/administrators have win at all costs mentalities at some level it will happen.

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The NCAA and presidents need to step in and make a rule that says you can only sign a number of players equal to the number of open scholarships the team has available.

If teams want to hedge their bets with kids currently on scholarship make them take the kids scollie away before national signing day.

I would be really pizzed to be a player who played in 2014, stays in good academic standing, works out all winter and does voluntary drills, goes to spring practice, and then in late May the player gets his schollie yanked.

And it is time for 4 year schollies and if a player quits playing the team gets that one back
 








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