Fryowa
Administrator
My thought is that we switch to a 6 on 6 league.
Epenesa, Wirfs, and Kallenberger at guard; Cook, Garza and J-Dubs at forward.
We'd set that league on fire. Till we played Clemson's 6 on 6 team I guess..
Shit.
Epenesa, Wirfs, and Kallenberger at guard; Cook, Garza and J-Dubs at forward.
We'd set that league on fire. Till we played Clemson's 6 on 6 team I guess..
Shit.
InGoodCo
Well-Known Member
i hate to say because I hated it when it changed, but I miss the old ladies 6 on 6 games where like 1 player could score 80 pts.
Fryowa
Administrator
6-6 gets a bad rap because it's a chick sport, but I'd love to see some high-level mens teams play it. There's a whole other layer of strategy and it'd be a hoot.
I'd buy a $50 ticket for that.
Knight78
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I'd like to see it for no other reason than the ball has to keep moving on offense. One player can hold it for a total of about 10-12 seconds. They had to dribble or pass before a 5-second count turned the ball over, they could only take 2 dribbles max and once they used their dribble they had a 5-second count to pass or shoot before a turnover.
Northside Hawk
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We still need as many resume building wins as we can get. Getting even one win between Sparty, Michigan and Maryland would be huge, as would knocking off Wisconsin in Madison or Nebraeka in Lincoln.
I'm seeing signs of intangibles that even the Uthoff class didn't have; toughness, chemistry, killer instinct, clutch shots taken and made. We avoid trips to Ann Arbor and College Park, which is huge because Maryland is knocking off everyone. I'm anxious to see how we fare in this tough stretch coming up. I don't want to be an eight or nine seed and be second round fodder.
He already has. It's just he was so bad to start the year his overall numbers are still low. I bet he's mid 40s the last 8 games or so.
mopkins
King Kong
Yeah he's 7 for 10 last 2 games. My calculator tells me thats 70%.
13 for 25 over his last 5 games, which includes an 0-4 in the NW game.
JG10Hawk
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Ian Pike Hammer
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Hell yeah, let's shoot 50 3's next game!
Northside Hawk
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Garza would put up Will Chamberlain type numbers in the old six on six game. He would never have to run up and down the floor.
Woodbury and/or Olesaini would have been excellent defensive anchors on the other side of the floor.
Northside Hawk
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That is insane! For 40% of a conference season.
That leaves opponents with two choices. Keep letting us shoot them or let Cook and Garza have more opportunities inside.
I swear I didnt look that up first!
That's what I come up with too.
Northside Hawk
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153 points created on 51 for 110.
To score that many points with 110 two point field goals you would have to make 77 of them, 70%!
The thing is, it's not even like he's been on fire lately. He's just back to normal for him.
racerhawk
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thedukeofearl
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The intangibles are the difference this season. I believe this team is better than the 2015/6 team that started so well, becoming NumberOne in KenPom for a week. I like this team better. Our starters can all score and it is a mistake to concentrate on any one of them. Our inside/outside game is very good and presents problems for whomever we play.
We have a game pattern that is working quite nicely. If we have a lead at closing time, we use the clock and usually get a foul called and make the free shots. If they back off and attempt not to foul, we seem to get an easy basket because they can't foul. We Will make the free throws.....
We are superior in every category you mentioned: Toughness, Chemistry, Killer Instinct and making the clutch shots. Two years ago when we had one of the most inexperienced teams in the college basketball this became one of my favorite Hawkeye basketball teams. They gradually became a tough-minded team that played beyond all expectations. We almost achieved the impossible and made TheDance. We came close to making it to the Garden in the NIT.losing a close one to TCU in overtime. TCU eventually won the championship.....
This is a fun year for certain.....
Northside Hawk
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Anything can happen once you make the dance. But I've seen too many examples in the last thirty years, in both the Davis and McCaffery years, of talented teams just not developing the toughness, the clutch genes, associated with teams coached by Knight, Keady, Izzo and Ryan. Finding ways to lose just enough conference games to get the dreaded 7-10 seed in the NCAA's, and get exposed in the second round. Since Duke in 1991 we have been knocked out by the eventual national champ four times. Another team, Kentucky in 1997, took Arizona into overtime in the national championship game. It's also been well over a decade since we've been any factor in the conference championship tournament, despite some favorable seeds under Fran, further hindering our NCAA seedings.
It's time for an Iowa team to have a different identity, a different mindset. You saw flashes of it two years ago when JBo beat Wisconsin in Madison WI a late shot, then destroyed Maryland in their own crib. I was hoping they could build on that last year. I don't know what happened last year. At least one player (Bohannon) has come forward saying he couldn't put his finger on it either. The best answer I have, as a fan who has watched Iowa basketball for over forty years, is that this league will chew you up spit you out if you aren't ready to compete tooth and nail every night. Last year's team was not.
Now fast forward to this year. You saw good signs in New York. You saw a team find a way to win a game against Pitt that they would have lost many other years. You saw them respond to Iowa State's noise by pounding them into submission. They took another leap forward in the Nebraska game, have now won five in a row. And are doing it with toughness, grit, making the plays and getting the stops down the stretch. The ways we have seen other teams win games all these years. Anyone want to doubt if we would beat Wisconsin today if we replayed that November 30 game, or if we will beat them in Madison?
Is .500 in the conference and a middling NCAA bid the ceiling for this team? It's possible. If we are tough minded and get key defensive stops and that's where we finish, it will be somewhat satisfying. But the bar suddenly seems higher for this bunch. Much more than for the Uthoff teams, or much of Davis' '90's teams. I would trust Joe or JBo to take a game winning shot, and several others including those two at the line to seal a win. This team has a combination of veteran experience and emerging young talent that I have seldom seen in the last thirty years.
I'm past the stage of being happy for any NCAA bid and not surviving the first weekend. I saw what Lute era teams and early Davis era teams did. I'm aware of the history of the 1956 and 1970 teams. It's time to start a new era of relevance, one that includes occasional conference or conference tournament championships and more frequent tourney runs into the second weekend. I can't wait to see if this team in the second half of the conference season is the real deal. Mostly I'm just excited to see them winning their share of games with grit and toughness for a change.
It's time for an Iowa team to have a different identity, a different mindset. You saw flashes of it two years ago when JBo beat Wisconsin in Madison WI a late shot, then destroyed Maryland in their own crib. I was hoping they could build on that last year. I don't know what happened last year. At least one player (Bohannon) has come forward saying he couldn't put his finger on it either. The best answer I have, as a fan who has watched Iowa basketball for over forty years, is that this league will chew you up spit you out if you aren't ready to compete tooth and nail every night. Last year's team was not.
Now fast forward to this year. You saw good signs in New York. You saw a team find a way to win a game against Pitt that they would have lost many other years. You saw them respond to Iowa State's noise by pounding them into submission. They took another leap forward in the Nebraska game, have now won five in a row. And are doing it with toughness, grit, making the plays and getting the stops down the stretch. The ways we have seen other teams win games all these years. Anyone want to doubt if we would beat Wisconsin today if we replayed that November 30 game, or if we will beat them in Madison?
Is .500 in the conference and a middling NCAA bid the ceiling for this team? It's possible. If we are tough minded and get key defensive stops and that's where we finish, it will be somewhat satisfying. But the bar suddenly seems higher for this bunch. Much more than for the Uthoff teams, or much of Davis' '90's teams. I would trust Joe or JBo to take a game winning shot, and several others including those two at the line to seal a win. This team has a combination of veteran experience and emerging young talent that I have seldom seen in the last thirty years.
I'm past the stage of being happy for any NCAA bid and not surviving the first weekend. I saw what Lute era teams and early Davis era teams did. I'm aware of the history of the 1956 and 1970 teams. It's time to start a new era of relevance, one that includes occasional conference or conference tournament championships and more frequent tourney runs into the second weekend. I can't wait to see if this team in the second half of the conference season is the real deal. Mostly I'm just excited to see them winning their share of games with grit and toughness for a change.
