IowaHawkeyeFB
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Any thoughts on visiting or staying in Tijuana?
OT: Tijuana for Holiday Bowl?
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Ben Rumson
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Only if you like the shits!
Being extorted in mex jail!
Caught up in cartel violence!
But probably better than 5 seconds in San Francisco!
Being extorted in mex jail!
Caught up in cartel violence!
But probably better than 5 seconds in San Francisco!
hawkdrummer1
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I'm sure ISU was hoping for the Holiday Bowl. Two words: donkey show
HawkGold
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The tourist shops area isnt really Mexico, but you can get some nice Mex blankets cheap if you know quality.
The food can be dicey.
Leave the tourist area at your peril. Likely you will be OK robbed or not.
Getting thru customs can be long. If your passport comes up you have been overseas and you have a child that looks like kids from that country, expect you and that child to be grilled.
Take a walk or bike ride along the beach around seaworld or go north 20 miles to do that and eat a sandwich shop overlooking the ocean.
The food can be dicey.
Leave the tourist area at your peril. Likely you will be OK robbed or not.
Getting thru customs can be long. If your passport comes up you have been overseas and you have a child that looks like kids from that country, expect you and that child to be grilled.
Take a walk or bike ride along the beach around seaworld or go north 20 miles to do that and eat a sandwich shop overlooking the ocean.
Fryowa
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When I was four we moved from Iowa to Arizona for 11 years. One of my friends that I've kept in touch with lives in El Paso now and married a Mexican woman; they go across into Juarez like 2 or 3 times a week for different things. No fucking way am I doing that. That's by far the worst cartel city and those dudes won't think twice about chopping your head off and leaving it on a park bench if they thought you were up to something.
He's whiter than Mike Gesell and once in a while he'll text me a selfie from a bar late at night with his wife. I'm sure there are differing degrees of sketch level in Juarez, but no goddamn way would I be putting any booze in my body down there.
ChosenChildren
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DO NOT DO IT. There is plenty to do and see in San Diego. It's a beautiful city
hawkdrummer1
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The most dangerous place in North America is within 10 miles of the US/Mexico border on the Mexican side. Can't imagine why anyone would put themselves there.
ibahawkeye
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My immediate and only thought.... not how I'd want to spend my bowl trip.
WinOneThisCentury
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I don't think white Iowans wearing Iowa gear will stand out in TJ. Just make sure someone from the group stays in the US to pay the ransom. The time for visiting TJ was in the 80s, it's not your father's TJ any longer. It's dangerous...and if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time...you will die.
Just google murders in TJ...and see the modus operandi of the cartel. And don't think, well if we go down during the day, we will be fine. It doesn't matter...the cartel henchmen have walked into a restaurant and murdered people in broad daylight...it doesn't matter.
2018 was a great year for the cartel.
"Tijuana has seen a methamphetamine-fuelled murder epidemic which produced a record 2,518 murders in 2018 and looks set to cause even more this year."
For reference...there were 561 murders in Chicago in 2018...and lot more guns in Chicago. In TJ, only the bad guys have the guns.
Just google murders in TJ...and see the modus operandi of the cartel. And don't think, well if we go down during the day, we will be fine. It doesn't matter...the cartel henchmen have walked into a restaurant and murdered people in broad daylight...it doesn't matter.
2018 was a great year for the cartel.
"Tijuana has seen a methamphetamine-fuelled murder epidemic which produced a record 2,518 murders in 2018 and looks set to cause even more this year."
For reference...there were 561 murders in Chicago in 2018...and lot more guns in Chicago. In TJ, only the bad guys have the guns.
hawkdrummer1
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good god... that's nearly 7 murders/day. Every day.
Motigerhawk
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HaydenHawk56
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Dress like this guy and you will be fine Senior.
Mexico is a narcoterrorist state. Period. Some people will wring their hands over this sentence, but it's the truth. Let other people be adventurous. You be smart.
If you're going to the tourist areas in Cozumel from your cruise ship...yes, I know, that's different. You go catalog all of the places that are "different". I'll pass.
If you're going to the tourist areas in Cozumel from your cruise ship...yes, I know, that's different. You go catalog all of the places that are "different". I'll pass.
Fryowa
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What Mexico needs to do is the following...
Make an announcement that due to the failure of fighting narcotics manufacture, and to try make a desperate peace and end to the violence they will be making it legal within a 50 x 50, 2,500 square mile section of land that is currently lightly inhabited like Chihuahua. This will be a "reservation" of sorts, and it will be left to the cartels to decide how to divide it up and create their own system of controls, etc. Essentially a lawless area that the government agrees to stay out of, but that the cartel agrees to stay within.
Announce a date, and tell everyone currently there that they have 3 months to move out, and then the cartels get 3 months to move in and set up shop. They take over everything about inhabiting and maintaining their new space. How they get their drugs in and out is their own problem, but in return for no violence outside of the fence the government won't interfere or prosecute.
And then after 3 or 4 months of them settling in--using all of the US's satellite tech, drones, B-52s, and B-1s--carpet bomb the ever loving F out of that place the likes of which Germany didn't even see in the 1940s. I'm talking scorched earth, non stop for a week, planes patrolling the perimeter to mop up any rats escaping the edges, total destruction.
If there was ever a mass elimination of human beings that needed to happen it's cartel members. It would be the best money our country ever spent. Would you get every gangster in the whole country? Nope. Would a black market pop up in its place? Yes. But it would take decades upon decades to get to be any semblance of what the cartels have.
And of course I know nothing like this would ever happen.
Make an announcement that due to the failure of fighting narcotics manufacture, and to try make a desperate peace and end to the violence they will be making it legal within a 50 x 50, 2,500 square mile section of land that is currently lightly inhabited like Chihuahua. This will be a "reservation" of sorts, and it will be left to the cartels to decide how to divide it up and create their own system of controls, etc. Essentially a lawless area that the government agrees to stay out of, but that the cartel agrees to stay within.
Announce a date, and tell everyone currently there that they have 3 months to move out, and then the cartels get 3 months to move in and set up shop. They take over everything about inhabiting and maintaining their new space. How they get their drugs in and out is their own problem, but in return for no violence outside of the fence the government won't interfere or prosecute.
And then after 3 or 4 months of them settling in--using all of the US's satellite tech, drones, B-52s, and B-1s--carpet bomb the ever loving F out of that place the likes of which Germany didn't even see in the 1940s. I'm talking scorched earth, non stop for a week, planes patrolling the perimeter to mop up any rats escaping the edges, total destruction.
If there was ever a mass elimination of human beings that needed to happen it's cartel members. It would be the best money our country ever spent. Would you get every gangster in the whole country? Nope. Would a black market pop up in its place? Yes. But it would take decades upon decades to get to be any semblance of what the cartels have.
And of course I know nothing like this would ever happen.
ssckelley
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Jeez, some of you guys are freaking out. As a US Citizen you are more likely to be murdered in Chicago than in Tijuana. The murder rate in the Caribbean is higher per capita. Up to 50 million people visit Tijuana every year.
All you gotta do is be smart, stay out of the districts that are prone to violence and you'll be fine. There are plenty of articles that address this topic, here is one of them: https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/murder-mexico-whats-danger-american-tourist
All you gotta do is be smart, stay out of the districts that are prone to violence and you'll be fine. There are plenty of articles that address this topic, here is one of them: https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/murder-mexico-whats-danger-american-tourist
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