OT: LOL...down goes Wichita.

I think you could take any Big 10 team except Rutgers and they would finish in the top 3 of the MVC. Nebby, jNW, Illinois, no doubt which to me shows how non-tough that conference is now.

I say now because I used to watch the MVC alot in the 60's and 70's when they had Louisville, Cincy, Tulsa, along with Drake, Bradley, and a few others
 
uihawk82 said:
I think you could take any Big 10 team except Rutgers and they would finish in the top 3 of the MVC. Nebby, jNW, Illinois, no doubt which to me shows how non-tough that conference is now.

I say now because I used to watch the MVC alot in the 60's and 70's when they had Louisville, Cincy, Tulsa, along with Drake, Bradley, and a few others
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They still have Drake and Bradley. They've fallen off big time. Cincy and Tulsa? Ok in their new conference.

Nebby, NW, PSU would not finish in top 3. Top half? Yes. Top 3? No way.
Minny & Mich? Probably.
Other 8? Definitely.

So that means Big Ten is one of the power 5 conferences and the MVC is a mid-major.
 
WSU had a couple of tight games against ILL ST this season. The upset isn't that surprising...'the third time and all thing.'
 
QuadCityHawkeye said:
Illinois State is actually pretty good. They are currently #62 in Ken Pom.
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You are correct. Illinois State is actually a very solid team and if my memory is correct the last time the Hawks played them they beat us by 4. I believe it was the '87-'88 season when we had BJ, Marble, Jones, Horton & company.
 
uihawk82 said:
I think you could take any Big 10 team except Rutgers and they would finish in the top 3 of the MVC. Nebby, jNW, Illinois, no doubt which to me shows how non-tough that conference is now.

I say now because I used to watch the MVC alot in the 60's and 70's when they had Louisville, Cincy, Tulsa, along with Drake, Bradley, and a few others
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By RPI, even Rutgers higher than half of the MVC: Indiana St, Missouri St, Drake, Southern Ill and Bradley. Take off the bottom two teams of the Big 10 and only three of the MVC schools are higher than twelfth place Northwestern: UNI, Wichita St and Illinois St. Here are the current RPI ratings for the two conferences: (RPI rating, School, Strength of Schedule rating)

MVC
#15 Northern Iowa 152
#17 Wichita St 109
#68 Illinois St 78
#112 Evansville 126
#115 Loyola (Chi) 125
#190 Indiana St 143
#240 Missouri St 99
#269 Drake 89
#277 Southern Ill 227
#281 Bradley 110

Big 10
#6 Wisconsin 21
#9 Maryland 48
#27 Michigan St 19
#32 Ohio St 91
#37 Iowa 26
#56 Purdue 68
#57 Indiana 24
#59 Illinois 64
#82 Minnesota 52
#88 Michigan 9
#110 Northwestern 39
#126 Penn St 84
#127 Nebraska 57
#164 Rutgers 11

So UNI has the second easiest strength of schedule rating, and only two schools in the Big 10 have had easier schedules than EVERY school in the MVC. As deanvogs so aptly puts it #onebidleague
 
Knight78 said:
By RPI, even Rutgers higher than half of the MVC: Indiana St, Missouri St, Drake, Southern Ill and Bradley. Take off the bottom two teams of the Big 10 and only three of the MVC schools are higher than twelfth place Northwestern: UNI, Wichita St and Illinois St. Here are the current RPI ratings for the two conferences: (RPI rating, School, Strength of Schedule rating)

MVC
#15 Northern Iowa 152
#17 Wichita St 109
#68 Illinois St 78
#112 Evansville 126
#115 Loyola (Chi) 125
#190 Indiana St 143
#240 Missouri St 99
#269 Drake 89
#277 Southern Ill 227
#281 Bradley 110

Big 10
#6 Wisconsin 21
#9 Maryland 48
#27 Michigan St 19
#32 Ohio St 91
#37 Iowa 26
#56 Purdue 68
#57 Indiana 24
#59 Illinois 64
#82 Minnesota 52
#88 Michigan 9
#110 Northwestern 39
#126 Penn St 84
#127 Nebraska 57
#164 Rutgers 11

So UNI has the second easiest strength of schedule rating, and only two schools in the Big 10 have had easier schedules than EVERY school in the MVC. As deanvogs so aptly puts it #onebidleague
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Probably will be a three bid league when Ill St wins. That is a joke as the league only deserves one bid with what a joke their schedules are. If Rutgers played that soft a schedule they would be NCAA bound as well.
 
deanvogs said:
Probably will be a three bid league when Ill St wins. That is a joke as the league only deserves one bid with what a joke their schedules are. If Rutgers played that soft a schedule they would be NCAA bound as well.
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Tough start for UNI. Down 21-8.
 
5-25 overall and 0-7 from downtown. Ouch! When UNI isn't hitting 3's their chances of winning go down dramatically.
 
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