Opening Line vs. Tenn Tech.....

I think Iowa should cover the spread on this one. 40 points is huge, but it really wouldn't surprise me all that much if Iowa leads by 40 or so at halftime. Tennessee Tech isn't that good. In the last five years, they have lost by 40 or more to FBS opponents 5 times in 7 games. They two where they covered 40 were 38-0 vs. Georgia in '09 and 35-3 vs. Auburn in '07.

As far as the UNI-ISU game, I wouldn't touch this game. ISU should easily cover the spread on this, but after the '09 game with Iowa, I don't think I'll ever be comfortable with UNI as an underdog.
 
You guys are making it sound like ISU has a whole new team with no returning starters for us. Drop your rival bias and think to yourself, do you really think ISU is going to lose to UNI? We return a good bulk of our defense, most of the same guys that shut out UNI last year. Am I predicting another shutout? No, but I see Iowa State winning this game pretty easily. I am thinking ISU wins by 24. I am really looking forward to seeing how Jantz plays and that will help to gauge how the season will go.
 
You guys are making it sound like ISU has a whole new team with no returning starters for us. Drop your rival bias and think to yourself, do you really think ISU is going to lose to UNI? We return a good bulk of our defense, most of the same guys that shut out UNI last year. Am I predicting another shutout? No, but I see Iowa State winning this game pretty easily. I am thinking ISU wins by 24. I am really looking forward to seeing how Jantz plays and that will help to gauge how the season will go.

UNI was an incredibly young team last year, and returns 17 starters this season, which I believe includes their starting QB and RB. I realize they are FCS, but ISU fans are expecting a thrashing like last year. I just don't see Iowa State winning by more than 2 TDs or so.
 
Unless this team is equivalent to a junior college program I think 40 is way too high. Iowa rarely lights it up for that many points and Kirk is not one to run the score up. I could see something like 33 - 7. Kirk will call the dogs off if this game gets out of hand ... Now, if we were a Florida or someone, we would pound 'em until we won 70-3 ...
 
As for Iowa and 40, come on I just put up a thread about how I liked KF, if he isnt giving some snap time for 3 and 4 after a lower 20's lead I will be disappointed. We need the health later on and our 3's and 4's could use the snaps. He has the depth and there is no reason not to play it that way. Now Pitt and even somewhat to ISU I can understand more starter time.
 
As for Iowa and 40, come on I just put up a thread about how I liked KF, if he isnt giving some snap time for 3 and 4 after a lower 20's lead I will be disappointed. We need the health later on and our 3's and 4's could use the snaps. He has the depth and there is no reason not to play it that way. Now Pitt and even somewhat to ISU I can understand more starter time.

The Pitt game, the starters will play the whole game I believe. I think that one stays within 2 TDs. Iowa St.......ya never know with them. Starters till at least 3rd quarter and possibly the whole game depending on how close it is. IMO
 
Yeah, no kidding. I mean, Iowa State has the most talented team they've had in the Paul Rhodes era. I am thinking the line should be somewhere around the lines of ISU -700.

On a serious note, get over yourself. Iowa State is one of the worst BCS teams in the country, starting a new QB, against one of the most talented FCS teams around. UNI covering is definitely a possibility.

LOL, the sad part is you call ISU one of the worst teams in college football, yet they will beat Iowa in week two by a touchdown. Again what was Ferentz's record after year 2? If ISU is bad, Iowa should have been sent to the MVC after Ferentz's second year.
 
LOL, the sad part is you call ISU one of the worst teams in college football, yet they will beat Iowa in week two by a touchdown. Again what was Ferentz's record after year 2? If ISU is bad, Iowa should have been sent to the MVC after Ferentz's second year.

Iowa was one of the worst BCS teams those years you're right, and IA State was at a historical best (though by most standards a mediocre team). Luckily, it didn't take long for that to correct itself.

Not saying ISU can't be good someday, but there hasn't been much evidence they'll climb out of the hole as being labeled as one of the worst BCS programs. I think the no conf. championship since like 1912 kind of reiterates that. Sorry, but if you're team hasn't accomplished much, most people aren't going to take your trash talk seriously, even non-rivals. Its hard to shed a label, even harder when the label is continually reinforced.
 
Iowa was one of the worst BCS teams those years you're right, and IA State was at a historical best (though by most standards a mediocre team). Luckily, it didn't take long for that to correct itself.

Not saying ISU can't be good someday, but there hasn't been much evidence they'll climb out of the hole as being labeled as one of the worst BCS programs. I think the no conf. championship since like 1912 kind of reiterates that. Sorry, but if you're team hasn't accomplished much, most people aren't going to take your trash talk seriously, even non-rivals. Its hard to shed a label, even harder when the label is continually reinforced.
Here is hint, I don't care what Criner, Walden and McCarney did when they were here and neither does the current or future players. They don't remember those days and neither should you or I. CPR has done a damn good job with the what he inherited and had no say in those down years. He inherited no depth, no stars, and no confidence. Has beat NU and Texas on the road in his first two seasons and won a bowl game. I care about the here and now, so do the players, so to call ISU the worst school in the BCS is pretty unrealistic and shallow. ISU has defeated teams that have been in and won BCS games in the last 5 years and even NC teams. Duke is a bad BCS football team, ISU is not, were they in the 90's, hell ya, but this is 2011.
 
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Iowa was one of the worst BCS teams those years you're right, and IA State was at a historical best (though by most standards a mediocre team). Luckily, it didn't take long for that to correct itself.

Not saying ISU can't be good someday, but there hasn't been much evidence they'll climb out of the hole as being labeled as one of the worst BCS programs. I think the no conf. championship since like 1912 kind of reiterates that. Sorry, but if you're team hasn't accomplished much, most people aren't going to take your trash talk seriously, even non-rivals. Its hard to shed a label, even harder when the label is continually reinforced.
That label is told by media members that have no idea what Paul Rhoads up to behind the scenes. These media members label ISU as bad because of what Gene Chizik did to the program and his 5-19 record. It has shown that current players and the recruits brought in by Rhoads have paid little attention to this poor media reporting. I will say this, you are not a bad BCS program when you are putting out the players that Rhoads has so far. Just think of him as the up and coming Ferentz because that's what he is. KO and Knott were nothing when they were recruited but both will likely be first round draft picks. I am just saying those that say ISU is a bad BCS team thinks of the Gene Chizik era and puts little effort into what Rhoads has already done in Ames and what he will do.
 
LOL, the sad part is you call ISU one of the worst teams in college football, yet they will beat Iowa in week two by a touchdown. Again what was Ferentz's record after year 2? If ISU is bad, Iowa should have been sent to the MVC after Ferentz's second year.


Love the optimism since we all know over the last year few years ISU's offense has scored at will on us. Correct me if I'm wrong, but i bet it felt amazing watching your first team offense finally score a TD against our 3rd string defense last year.

Not saying ISU won't be better this year or the game won't be competitive, but quit talking like your offense has been playing well against us the past few years.

And seriously, the comment about how we should have been in the MVC after Kirk's second season. You're joking right, I realize we were bad, but ISU's never been anything yet you're going to throw an MVC stab out there? Your one of the worst FBS school's year in and year out, but keep taking jabs at the MVC because it's hillarious.
 
Love the optimism since we all know over the last year few years ISU's offense has scored at will on us. Correct me if I'm wrong, but i bet it felt amazing watching your first team offense finally score a TD against our 3rd string defense last year.

Not saying ISU won't be better this year or the game won't be competitive, but quit talking like your offense has been playing well against us the past few years.

And seriously, the comment about how we should have been in the MVC after Kirk's second season. You're joking right, I realize we were bad, but ISU's never been anything yet you're going to throw an MVC stab out there? Your one of the worst FBS school's year in and year out, but keep taking jabs at the MVC because it's hillarious.

Wow says alot for teams like Texas Tech, Nebraska and Texas. I guess you are welcoming a member to the Big 10 this year that should have actually fallen to the MAC because Rhoads was a 2 point conversion away from being 2-0 against the Huskers. One thing you cant make up is NU is picked to go to the Rose Bowl, yet struggled to beat the worst BCS team in the country.
 
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So you're going to put the quote in bold (which generally symbolizes you read it) and then your going to quote me as saying that I said you were the worst team in BCS? Guess you missed the phrase "one of" in all that bold lettering.

Again, way to go chest thumping about beating Texas last year. Awesome, you beat a 5-7 team that just happened to be Texas, we get it. And I get the fact that you take a shot at us by comparing us to an MVC team after Kirk's second year, but how dare anyone comment on your place amoung the elite programs in all of football, but I forgot you're only perceived at the bottom, because of the fact that you have the toughest schedule in the nation. Seriously.
 
So you're going to put the quote in bold (which generally symbolizes you read it) and then your going to quote me as saying that I said you were the worst team in BCS? Guess you missed the phrase "one of" in all that bold lettering.

Again, way to go chest thumping about beating Texas last year. Awesome, you beat a 5-7 team that just happened to be Texas, we get it. And I get the fact that you take a shot at us by comparing us to an MVC team after Kirk's second year, but how dare anyone comment on your place amoung the elite programs in all of football, but I forgot you're only perceived at the bottom, because of the fact that you have the toughest schedule in the nation. Seriously.
Iowa has beat some pretty bad Michigan and OSU teams and still did the chest thumping? In the end player for player ISU is not in the same ballpark as Texas and neither is Iowa to OSU or Michigan so wins against these teams are barometers. You telling me Iowa wouldn't storm the field if they beat OSU on any year, please? Texas was 4-2 and ranked 19th when we beat them. They did just go to Lincoln and handle the Huskers. But that doesn't matter right?
 
Iowa has beat some pretty bad Michigan and OSU teams and still did the chest thumping? In the end player for player ISU is not in the same ballpark as Texas and neither is Iowa to OSU or Michigan so wins against these teams are barometers. You telling me Iowa wouldn't storm the field if they beat OSU on any year, please? Texas was 4-2 and ranked 19th when we beat them. They did just go to Lincoln and handle the Huskers. But that doesn't matter right?


I get ya, but let's be honest, we're talking about Iowa so regardless of who were playing most likely the field is going to be stormed.

I'm not taking anything away from ISU. IMO they're getting better and I truly hope they continue to do so, but they aren't there yet. I agree completely, that it's hard to be successful when there's no coaching stability and I think Rhodes is a great fit, but whether or not he stays is anyone's guess.

While I see you're point on using wins as a barometer, call me arrogant, but in the shape Michigan football has been in since they made the disasterous signing of Rich Rod, I don't see Michigan as "that team" anymore. I also don't play the moral victory card against OSU.

SO maybe my original comment was a bit strong, based on your MVC comment, but I just don't see things the same way you do.
 
I get ya, but let's be honest, we're talking about Iowa so regardless of who were playing most likely the field is going to be stormed.

I'm not taking anything away from ISU. IMO they're getting better and I truly hope they continue to do so, but they aren't there yet. I agree completely, that it's hard to be successful when there's no coaching stability and I think Rhodes is a great fit, but whether or not he stays is anyone's guess.

While I see you're point on using wins as a barometer, call me arrogant, but in the shape Michigan football has been in since they made the disasterous signing of Rich Rod, I don't see Michigan as "that team" anymore. I also don't play the moral victory card against OSU.

SO maybe my original comment was a bit strong, based on your MVC comment, but I just don't see things the same way you do.
I agree Rhoads is not there and he has said that himself. I got going on the comment about the worst school in the BCS. That statement is shallow and false, they have a ways to go, but could beat a lot of BCS teams across the country, including having a real shot at winning the current Big East. ISU will make gigantic strides this season with the talent we have on the field and the results will show it.
 
If ferentz didnt pound then number 5 MSU into the soil last year to make a statement he sure isnt going to do it against tenn tech. Well get up by about 30 and than turtle.
 

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