OL Next Year - 2010

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WDMHAWKEYE

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I posted a message about this same topic 2 weeks ago. I just think this is the most important thing about next year.

How does this look????

LT-Reiff
LG-Vandervelde
C- Ferentz
RG-Orne or Gettis
RT-MacMillan, Henderson???
 
WDMHAWKEYE said:
I posted a message about this same topic 2 weeks ago. I just think this is the most important thing about next year.

How does this look????

LT-Reiff
LG-Vandervelde
C- Ferentz
RG-Orne or Gettis
RT-MacMillan, Henderson???
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I will just copy my thoughts from yesterday's O-line thread. Since it was such a good point, I think everyone needs to read it again. And again. If you want to PM me about how thoughtful it was, don't bother. Just the satisfaction of knowing you guys are learning is enough satisfaction for me.

I agree with you that the line will not be great, not be bad, but probably average, and most likely finishing the season slightly above average. I think it will be a rocky road with so little expereinence. We will probably have some drives fizzle because of a blitz not picked up by a raw lineman, or a 3rd and short we didn't have the strenght to pull off.

I think we can be as good as last year if all of the pieces fall into place, but with just an average line, I don't think we compete for anything bigger than the conference title. I think some people here are setting unrealistic expectations for this team based off of this years success, but the offense is definately going to struggle next year, and I wonder how some fans will cope with this.
 
My 'too early' 2010 prediction for Offensive Line

LT- Riley Reiff, Hagenmann
LG- Julian Vandevelde, Bofeli
C- Koeppel, Ferentz (Koeppel is good, I think he starts the season)
RG - Hundtermark/Gettis, Woody Orne, Clark
RT- Nolan MacMillan, Brett Van Sloten
 
IMO I think we've got preety good lineman waiting their turn and a pretty good coach that specializes in their positions. I think we are going to miss our LB's next year off the D.
 
GhostofBTT said:
I will just copy my thoughts from yesterday's O-line thread. Since it was such a good point, I think everyone needs to read it again. And again. If you want to PM me about how thoughtful it was, don't bother. Just the satisfaction of knowing you guys are learning is enough satisfaction for me.

I agree with you that the line will not be great, not be bad, but probably average, and most likely finishing the season slightly above average. I think it will be a rocky road with so little expereinence. We will probably have some drives fizzle because of a blitz not picked up by a raw lineman, or a 3rd and short we didn't have the strenght to pull off.

I think we can be as good as last year if all of the pieces fall into place, but with just an average line, I don't think we compete for anything bigger than the conference title. I think some people here are setting unrealistic expectations for this team based off of this years success, but the offense is definately going to struggle next year, and I wonder how some fans will cope with this.
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Based on how OSU looks next year, if we can compete with them for the conference title we can compete for the NC. I'm not saying we will be that good but if we're good enough for the conference title we're good enough for the NC game.
 
We do have O-lineman waiting for their shot and I think we'll reload and have similar or better success on offense. But it won't be because of an improved line, it'll be because of improved skill position players. The line will be good enough that if they stay injury free and gel in the non-conference we will see great success from our experienced QB, RBs, TE and WRs.

On defense, I think we absolutely reload at LB. I love Edds and especially Angerer and think they were great and will be remembered, but they were not Hodge and Greenway. Hunter, Tarpinian and that fella that we plugged in that won D-POW against Minnesota will do anywere from just fine to great for us. Our D-line (and secondary) is so good that the LBs will have plenty of time to fly around and make plays just like this season.

The big question is O-line, but I have a feeling they will be more than adequate. My fingers will be crossed heading into Sept.
 
GhostofBTT said:
I will just copy my thoughts from yesterday's O-line thread. Since it was such a good point, I think everyone needs to read it again. And again. If you want to PM me about how thoughtful it was, don't bother. Just the satisfaction of knowing you guys are learning is enough satisfaction for me.

I agree with you that the line will not be great, not be bad, but probably average, and most likely finishing the season slightly above average. I think it will be a rocky road with so little expereinence. We will probably have some drives fizzle because of a blitz not picked up by a raw lineman, or a 3rd and short we didn't have the strenght to pull off.

I think we can be as good as last year if all of the pieces fall into place, but with just an average line, I don't think we compete for anything bigger than the conference title. I think some people here are setting unrealistic expectations for this team based off of this years success, but the offense is definately going to struggle next year, and I wonder how some fans will cope with this.
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I agree with most of this ,I think the O-line struggles for half the season.KF will know how to balance that out with play calling.I think having all the other pieces around this team will make the oline gel faster.They will see how huge the D is playing and they will start making progress.It will take a few games but I think by the 2nd or 3rd week in the big ten these guy's will have figured it out.Hopefully we wont have to pay the price for it.
 
I think the OL will take some time to jell but which OL doesn't? Hopefully less injuries, thyroid issues, and mopeds will make it an outstanding unit which is what the are certainly capable of. Reiff and Vandervelde have the makings of a great left side and luckily some of the other guys got some pt this year for experience.
 
Don't agree with Ghost of BTT that the oline will be average. Don't buy that at all ... Ferentz has a system in place and many of the guys on the line next season may lack game experience (which is crucial) but they have been in the system for at least a couple of seasons ... I don't think our offense is going to struggle next season based solely on the key pieces we have returning. We have a senior qb, a platoon of running backs, experienced wide receivers ... I am not planning on jumping off the cliff just yet based Ghost of BTT's predictions ...
 
blackgold2core said:
IMO I think we've got preety good lineman waiting their turn and a pretty good coach that specializes in their positions. I think we are going to miss our LB's next year off the D.
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I don't think you'll miss them as much as you'd think, Johnson, Nielson, and Tarp I believe or more then cabable replacement. I think it'll be kind of like last year, I thought it was going to impossible to replace King and Kroul, but we did it.
 
DesMoinesHawki said:
Don't agree with Ghost of BTT that the oline will be average. Don't buy that at all ... Ferentz has a system in place and many of the guys on the line next season may lack game experience (which is crucial) but they have been in the system for at least a couple of seasons ... I don't think our offense is going to struggle next season based solely on the key pieces we have returning. We have a senior qb, a platoon of running backs, experienced wide receivers ... I am not planning on jumping off the cliff just yet based Ghost of BTT's predictions ...
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Our offense struggled this season with those same players and an experienced line. This year, the skill players will have experience, and the line will not. So basically we are swapping one weakness for another next year.

I am not saying jump off a cliff, but I am saying expect more of the same. I honestly don't see next year's offense being noticably better than this year's offense.
 
TheBattman said:
I think the OL will take some time to jell but which OL doesn't? Hopefully less injuries, thyroid issues, and mopeds will make it an outstanding unit which is what the are certainly capable of. Reiff and Vandervelde have the makings of a great left side and luckily some of the other guys got some pt this year for experience.
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This line, without injuries might be a little SALTIER than some people think.

Josh Koeppel has playing experience, in 2009 and so does Adam Gettis.
That's probably 4 of 5 guys with experience and Nolan MacMillan is being talked about very highly by the coaches.

As Kirk Herbstreit said, recently, 'Look out for those HAWKEYES' :)
 
DeanMarshall said:
This line, without injuries might be a little SALTIER than some people think.

Josh Koeppel has playing experience, in 2009 and so does Adam Gettis.
That's probably 4 of 5 guys with experience and Nolan MacMillan is being talked about very highly by the coaches.

As Kirk Herbstreit said, recently, 'Look out for those HAWKEYES' :)
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The buzz surrounding Nolan MacMillan seems to be very similar to the buzz we heard around Riley Rieff last winter. If he turns out to be any where near the player Rieff was this year we will be all set a the tackle position for 2-3 years.
 
This is the great thing about college football. Every year you get guys who get the chance to play and step up big time. Who thought Reiff would do what he did? Did we really believe that Wegher and Robinson could carry the load all year long with a grueling Big 10, and the road schedule? We were all hopeful that McNutt was really a WR, but boy did he show us just how good he is. Two new DT, and we didn't miss a beat replacing two 4 year starters, Bernstein out Prater in, etc. If you look back each and every year, you see new guys emerge. 2008 the list is long also, and on and on.

The one area we are always at least solid is line play, and I think that we may be shaky early, but will gel as the year moves along. I think some of the early competition the skill guys can carry us, and then when we get into the Big 10 play, HOPEFULLY we will be fine.
 
I've heard from a very close source that Nolan MacMillan is a very classy young man and fine student. I'm thinking that Hawkeye fans are going to see Big things from him in the next couple of years.
 
GhostofBTT said:
I agree with you that the line will not be great, not be bad, but probably average, and most likely finishing the season slightly above average. I think it will be a rocky road with so little expereinence. We will probably have some drives fizzle because of a blitz not picked up by a raw lineman, or a 3rd and short we didn't have the strenght to pull off.

I think we can be as good as last year if all of the pieces fall into place, but with just an average line, I don't think we compete for anything bigger than the conference title. I think some people here are setting unrealistic expectations for this team based off of this years success, but the offense is definately going to struggle next year, and I wonder how some fans will cope with this.
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If 'all' Iowa competes for is a conference title, I will be pleased with that. I am not getting sucked into any sort of national championship hype. That irritates some people, but to do that, you have to be good and lucky. There is only one team that wins the title each year, and it's not like there are many cinderellas that make it to the ball. Most of the teams that have won the title over the last two decades or more are teams that have been winning forever in college football, with a few exceptions.

I don't think the offense will be any worse than it was this year, and they will still need to make some magic happen along the way...will the close games keep going Iowa's way? Hard to expect that. Right now, I am no where near ready to make any predictions on success for next year, other than to say I think the team will win at least nine games. And that's as pretty good season for Iowa football, historically.
 
If Iowa competes for a Big Ten title we will be in contention for a National Championship. I'm in the same boat as Jon here in that I think there will be as many close games next year as there were this year...we're just not that much better than everybody on our schedule to expect that we won't have games that come down to a play here or there and we're still talking about amateur athletes...we can't expect every clutch pass to be on the money or caught...every clutch kick to go through...etc.

I think Ohio State will be in contention for a National Championship...they should be very good. If we're competing with tOSU for the Big Ten title when they come into Iowa City we'll be in the running for a National Championship.

Also...I just don't think we'll have 2 undefeated teams this year. I think Boise gets beat by either Va Tech or Oregon St...we might see an undefeated team from the SEC or one from the Big 12 but it's unlikely enough that I highly doubt we'll see one from each conference like this year.
 
After slipping by so many games this year on talent, hard work, or just plain good luck we probably were fortunate to end up with the season we had. Our O-line was never as dominate as what we have seen in the past but it's hard to tell if that was helped by a great back, receivers or QB and what other teams were keying on. This years O-line will be out of the same mold and hopefully a dominate force will arise. I love the courting of Seantrel, but we have a great O-line waiting to show their stuff right now. (Seantrel we are a short drive away from your family that could watch every game and you would be a rockstar here....shameless plug) This years team could push the envelope but even if they have some bad luck along the way, I will be there along with 70K plus giving them our best effort rooting the Hawks on to wherever it takes us.
 
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