Ohio State - How Many People Have To Complain

[SmokeTownHawk]

The only thing the death penalty hurts is players, most of whom never had anything to do with the issue. Most players aren't out of state superstars who can easily pick up and move across the country to jump right into a football program somewhere else.

The coaches are by and large millionaires (even the lowest assistants make mid six figures) and the only impact to them is their reputations. Not their livelihoods, and not their futures.

What they need to do in these instances is permanently ban anyone even remotely involved from any future NCAA involvement, as well as add whistle blower protection and $2,000,000 paid over 10 years to anyone coming forth with evidence of player abuse, cheating, or player payments that results in an investigation finding guilt. You think Rick Pitino is going to keep paying players if he knows that any of his 50 underlings can rat him out at the drop of a hat for two million bucks and put him in jail? At least one or two of those guys working for Louisville or Ohio State makes $45,000 a year and is behind on his child support and mortgage. But guess what? You'll never have to make that payment because the Tim Beckmans and Rick Courts of the world won't do the shit they did.

The players should get their scholarships honored to the completion of the BA/BS. If superstar players want to transfer allow them to play immediately wherever they land. Bring in the forensic accountants and sue the coaches, administrators, boosters, bagmen, anyone else involved. Freeze their bank accounts, domestic and offshore if possible.

 

[tweeterhawk]

in order to take sexual assault seriously?

"A 232-page investigative report released Friday found that Strauss had sexually abused at least 177 male students, but the report made only one specific reference to football players while listing how many athletes from each team were abused. That list says three football players were interviewed."

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/26774872/osu-football-players-allege-abuse-campus

What’s the Strauss thread about?

 

[HawkGold]

The only thing the death penalty hurts is players, most of whom never had anything to do with the issue. Most players aren't out of state superstars who can easily pick up and move across the country to jump right into a football program somewhere else.

The coaches are by and large millionaires (even the lowest assistants make mid six figures) and the only impact to them is their reputations. Not their livelihoods, and not their futures.

What they need to do in these instances is permanently ban anyone even remotely involved from any future NCAA involvement, as well as add whistle blower protection and $2,000,000 paid over 10 years to anyone coming forth with evidence of player abuse, cheating, or player payments that results in an investigation finding guilt. You think Rick Pitino is going to keep paying players if he knows that any of his 50 underlings can rat him out at the drop of a hat for two million bucks and put him in jail? At least one or two of those guys working for Louisville or Ohio State makes $45,000 a year and is behind on his child support and mortgage. But guess what? You'll never have to make that payment because the Tim Beckmans and Rick Courts of the world won't do the shit they did.

No, in the end it helps all. Fans/donors are a part of the problem.

 

[Fryowa]

No, in the end it helps all. Fans/donors are a part of the problem.

Respectfully, I disagree. The death penalty in college sports is no different than shutting down a company and firing all the workers for the transgressions of a millionaire CEO and a few of his upper management people who get to walk away to permanent financial security. While this happens sometimes in the business world unfortunately, it is only done in college sports at the whim of the NCAA (a decision also made by millionaires with nothing to lose from the situation).

A huge whistle blower bounty for proven violations, fronted by the NCAA (which can afford it) along with a permanent ban of offenders from college sports, would prevent the huge majority of shady stuff going on. Rick Pitino can't pay 50 people two million dollars each to keep quiet.

We can look at the "death penalty" at face value and say that it's 1) severe, and 2) reserved only for the most serious offenses and that would all be true.

However, if we look at it in reality, we see that it's almost never been used, it punishes innocent bystanders much more severely than the offenders, and most importantly, it has zero deterrent effect, which it was designed to have. None. The amount of rampant corruption that exists today is proof of that because it allows people to operate by only having to make sure they don't get caught, with the added incentive that guys like Paterno, Pitino, Calipari know the death penalty will never get applied.

There needs to be huge incentive to turn people in before the offenses occur. Can't stress that enough. If cheating is made so unappealing in the first place because the reward for getting ratted out is much greater than the money offenders can pay to keep people quiet, the corruption will fall off. And you aren't ruining innocent players' and coaches careers.

You think Mike McQueary would have kept Sandusky and Paterno's secret if he had a few million dollars staring him in the face? Nope. Is that a glowing endorsement of McQueary's morals? Absolutely not, but in the end it might have prevented some kids from getting raped.