!*****Official Iowa @ Pleasantville Nebraska Game Thread*****!

[deanvogs]

I still root for them too including Bohannon. You also have to realize I have posters calling me out saying I was wrong about him when I wasn't

You were wrong about him, you have admitted he is better offensive that you thought, and worse defensively that you thought. So you weren't right about him at all, and have admitted it freely many times now. So I'm not sure how you can say you were right about him?

Also many others have been either right about Jordan or wrong (like you) about Jordan. You are the only one who continues to troll about him......that is why people call you out, you are a troll. You don't see anyone else getting called out about Jordan if they were right or wrong about him before the season started. You are correctly being called out for being a troll. Plus you like it, this is your troll. You can pretend all you want that you aren't trolling about Jordan, everyone knows you are.

 

[Hawk5656]

Iowa needs an elite PG to be an upper level team in the conference and country...the parts are in place...someone come to Iowa to lead this team!!!!!

Yep. That's why I'm hoping we 3 people transfer out and can go all in on finding one

 

[Hawk5656]

You were wrong about him, you have admitted he is better offensive that you thought, and worse defensively that you thought. So you weren't right about him at all, and have admitted it freely many times now. So I'm not sure how you can say you were right about him?

Also many others have been either right about Jordan or wrong (like you) about Jordan. You are the only one who continues to troll about him......that is why people call you out, you are a troll. You don't see anyone else getting called out about Jordan if they were right or wrong about him before the season started. You are correctly being called out for being a troll. Plus you like it, this is your troll. You can pretend all you want that you aren't trolling about Jordan, everyone knows you are.

I was right when I said he wouldn't be very good this year. I'm not trolling Jordan or anyone, when people are saying I was wrong about him and pretending he's better than he is I'm not going to just sit there and agree with it

 

[deanvogs]

I was right when I said he wouldn't be very good. I'm not trolling Jordan or anyone, when people are saying I was wrong about him and pretending he's better than he is I'm not going to just sit there and agree with it

If Jordan isn't very good, Charlie Moore must be downright PATHETIC. Good thing we didn't get him:

Moore:
98 ORating
22.8 ARate
22.2 TORate

Bohannon
101.6 ORating
27.8 ARate
21.9 TORate

 

[Hawk5656]

If Jordan isn't very good, Charlie Moore must be downright PATHETIC. Good thing we didn't get him:

Moore:
98 ORating
22.8 ARate
22.2 TORate

Bohannon
101.6 ORating
27.8 ARate
21.9 TORate

Moore's PER is 14.8, Bohannon's is 11.1

Moore is better than Bohannon and you know it but troll on!

 

[deanvogs]

Moore's PER is 14.8, Bohannon's is 11.1

Moore is better than Bohannon and you know it but troll on!

Defensive ratings mean nothing, they are fake, everyone knows it and you have even admitted it. Kenpom doesn't even do fake defensive ratings. Offensively Jordan is better, kenpom says so and you say you are a Kenpom disciple.

 

[Hawk5656]

Defensive ratings mean nothing, they are fake, everyone knows it and you have even admitted it. Kenpom doesn't even do fake defensive ratings. Offensively Jordan is better, kenpom says so and you say you are a Kenpom disciple.

What are their KenPom rankings?

 

[deanvogs]

What are their KenPom rankings?

I gave you the kenpom rankings:

Moore:
98 ORating
22.8 ARate
22.2 TORate

Bohannon
101.6 ORating
27.8 ARate
21.9 TORate

All Kenpom numbers, and Kenpom says Jordan is the better player, and you are a Kenpom disciple.

 

[Hawk5656]

I gave you the kenpom rankings:

Moore:
98 ORating
22.8 ARate
22.2 TORate

Bohannon
101.6 ORating
27.8 ARate
21.9 TORate

All Kenpom numbers, and Kenpom says Jordan is the better player, and you are a Kenpom disciple.

KenPom ranks players, I'm asking where they are ranked. I don't doubt KenPom says Bohannon is the better offensive player because of the fake assist numbers. Moore is averaging over 15 ppg and shooting 7% better from the floor and better from 3 pt range

 

[Robowe]

KenPom ranks players, I'm asking where they are ranked. I don't doubt KenPom says Bohannon is the better offensive player because of the fake assist numbers. Moore is averaging over 15 ppg and shooting 7% better from the floor and better from 3 pt range

Moore last night - 5-17 from the floor (0-3 from three) with 4 turnovers and 2 assists. Yikes.

I concede the Moore has been better for the entire year. Here are the stats between Bohannon and Moore in the last 10 games (since JBo has been the starter).

Bohannon 35-96 FG (37%), 9-33 two pt (27%), 25-63 three pt (40%), 49 assists, 20 turnovers
Moore 44-117 FG (38%), 29-74 two pt (39%), 15-43 three pt (35%), 37 assists, 39 turnovers

 

[Hawk5656]

Moore last night - 5-17 from the floor (0-3 from three) with 4 turnovers and 2 assists. Yikes.

I concede the Moore has been better for the entire year. Here are the stats between Bohannon and Moore in the last 10 games (since JBo has been the starter).

Bohannon 35-96 FG (37%), 9-33 two pt (27%), 25-63 three pt (40%), 49 assists, 20 turnovers
Moore 44-117 FG (38%), 29-74 two pt (39%), 15-43 three pt (35%), 37 assists, 39 turnovers

And Moore is much better defensively

 

[Robowe]

And Moore is much better defensively

Concede as well. However, is the defense the difference between +12 assists and -19 turnover difference in those 10 games?

 

[Hawk5656]

Concede as well. However, is the defense the difference between +12 assists and -19 turnover difference in those 10 games?

I've been told assist numbers really don't matter because our guards like Mike and Jordan just throw it to someone on the perimeter who shoots it and makes it.

 

[deanvogs]

KenPom ranks players, I'm asking where they are ranked. I don't doubt KenPom says Bohannon is the better offensive player because of the fake assist numbers. Moore is averaging over 15 ppg and shooting 7% better from the floor and better from 3 pt range

The offensive rating takes all of this things into account, and says Jordan is better. There is more to being a PG than just points. Moore doesn't have as good of handles as Jordan and he can't pass as well. 2 things you want out of a PG.

Didn't you make fun of someone for not believing stats? I mean it clearly says Jordan is the better offensive player (yes that means more than just points). Oh and no trying to say there is such a thing as "fake" assists now is fumny.

 

[Robowe]

I've been told assist numbers really don't matter because our guards like Mike and Jordan just throw it to someone on the perimeter who shoots it and makes it.

OK, Not true and you know it. I know you are trying to make a point, so I will let you have some fun.

Jordan had at least two penetrate and dish plays last night. He had good passes to Cook twice in two man games where he didn't even get the assist because Cook put the ball on the floor on the way to the hoop. Jordan also had great entry passes to Pemsl and Wagner, but they didn't make the shot. So, you know, he can pass.

And, 19 more turnovers in 10 games for Moore is a lot. That is not good no matter how you slice it. As much as some folks give JBo a hard time for turnovers, Moore has 2 more per game average in the last 10 games.

 

[Hawk5656]

The offensive rating takes all of this things into account, and says Jordan is better. There is more to being a PG than just points. Moore doesn't have as good of handles as Jordan and he can't pass as well. 2 things you want out of a PG.

Didn't you make fun of someone for not believing stats? I mean it clearly says Jordan is the better offensive player (yes that means more than just points). Oh and no trying to say there is such a thing as "fake" assists now is fumny.

They play completely different roles on their team. Moore is asked to score more and Moore is much better defensively. Did you see Bohannon get his ankles broken last night on a crossover from Watson in OT and he made a wide open 3?

 

[Hawk5656]

OK, Not true and you know it. I know you are trying to make a point, so I will let you have some fun.

Jordan had at least two penetrate and dish plays last night. He had good passes to Cook twice in two man games where he didn't even get the assist because Cook put the ball on the floor on the way to the hoop. Jordan also had great entry passes to Pemsl and Wagner, but they didn't make the shot. So, you know, he can pass.

And, 19 more turnovers in 10 games for Moore is a lot. That is not good no matter how you slice it. As much as some folks give JBo a hard time for turnovers, Moore has 2 more per game average in the last 10 games.

Mike had plenty of penetrate and dish plays in his career but I was told we can't count assists because most of his assists were fake or unimpressive

 

[deanvogs]

They play completely different roles on their team. Moore is asked to score more and Moore is much better defensively. Did you see Bohannon get his ankles broken last night on a crossover from Watson in OT and he made a wide open 3?

I saw Jordan so the same to Watson to hit a 3 in OT. Now I haven't watched Watson much, but his defense impressed me, even tho he gets beat on plays and looks bad when he gets beat.

 

[NikeHawk21]

Hers the thing 56. Bohannon is rated better offensively than Moore. Moore is probably better defensively. Overall, Moore is probably a little better at this point in his career.

The funny thing is your making it sound like Moore is Isaiah Thomas (Pistons) and Bohannon is Lil Lickliter.

 

[deanvogs]

Mike had plenty of penetrate and dish plays in his career but I was told we can't count assists because most of his assists were fake or unimpressive

Well then Moore has 0 assists, all of his are "fake". LOL man, your trolls are getting weaker and weaker.

Just admit you popped off about Moore too soon and Jordan so far is the better offensive player, all the stats say so.