Notre Dame/LSU fire coaches (see obligatory duplicate thread)

[Joshbrown]

http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...e-fires-defensive-coordinator-brian-vangorder

His son is still on the team - awkward.

 

[tksirius]

This is probably similar to Paulie getting rid of Mangino. Kelly will be on the outs before January.

 

[NCHawker]

No shock there. Obvious that they were poorly coached.

 

[Hawkers86]

http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...e-fires-defensive-coordinator-brian-vangorder

His son is still on the team - awkward.

Its not that awkward word has it his son was making more money anyway.

 

[NEIChawk]

Les Miles and Cam Cameron are out @ LSU as well

 

[HawkGold]

And what would Iowa's record be with the same schedule? They should have gotten a 10 year contract.

 

[Garandx]

And yet were still stuck with Phil Parker and greg Davis

 

[Stanzi]

The fact Davis is still the offensive coordinator is a slap in the face to Iowa fans.

 

[Jonrn]

Les miles deserves to be fired, his performance in the last couple years has been a travesty. He should be 15-0 every year with that talent on his roster. He should be sued for malpractice based on his teams offense, makes iowas problems seem small.

 

[Jonrn]

He has NFL recievers like dupre and fournette and can't figure out how to use them.

 

[Joshbrown]

Les miles deserves to be fired, his performance in the last couple years has been a travesty. He should be 15-0 every year with that talent on his roster. He should be sued for malpractice based on his teams offense, makes iowas problems seem small.

11-2
11-2
12-2
8-5
9-4
11-2
13-1
10-3
10-3
8-5
9-3
2-2

I'll take that record at Iowa. And I'll accept the bartabuyoutclause which would be thus vvvv

 

[Joshbrown]

He has NFL recievers like dupre and fournette and can't figure out how to use them.

We could have guys like that, but . . . their style is not our style

 

[Jonrn]

11-2
11-2
12-2
8-5
9-4
11-2
13-1
10-3
10-3
8-5
9-3
2-2

I'll take that record at Iowa. And I'll accept the bartabuyoutclause which would be thus vvvv

Well of course I would take that record at Iowa, but comparing iowas performance to LSU's performance is apples and oranges. LSUs standard every year is national championship contender, iowas standard (to me anyways) is 8 wins.

 

[Jonrn]

We could have guys like that, but . . . their style is not our style

I don't buy those comparisons, I could drag out plenty of mug shots from iowas past. Iowas best WR from the past ten years had a cocaine den in his apartment. It goes on and on, every program has skeletons in their closet, as long as they don't become a systemic problem with people hiding them a la Baylor or penn state it's something college football fans live with.

 

[Joshbrown]

I don't buy those comparisons, I could drag out plenty of mug shots from iowas past. Iowas best WR from the past ten years had a cocaine den in his apartment. It goes on and on, every program has skeletons in their closet, as long as they don't become a systemic problem with people hiding them a la Baylor or penn state it's something college football fans live with.

I'm just saying that there is probably a reason Kirk keeps whiffing on top-flight WRs. DJK is the least of his problems. Locking down the talent in his back yard is the head-scratcher I'd like answered.

 

[clim3]

I know I'll get some "feedback" but I don't think firing a 2-2 coach with losses to undefeated whisky and auburn (both on the road) is right. Les Miles was a river boat gambler and they tried to fire him last year and brought him back but damn how do the kids he recruited adjust to a mid season change like this. Feels like this is about the AD keeping his job and not what's best for this team.

 

[Joshbrown]

Well of course I would take that record at Iowa, but comparing iowas performance to LSU's performance is apples and oranges. LSUs standard every year is national championship contender, iowas standard (to me anyways) is 8 wins.

The contract indicates 7 wins is the standard. And no, I'm not joking.

 

[Jonrn]

The contract indicates 7 wins is the standard. And no, I'm not joking.

True. Maybe that two star recruit t shirt company can also make a 7-5 line of sweaters to wear.

 

[hwk23]

BB benefits from this, just a prediction.

 

[Joshbrown]

I know I'll get some "feedback" but I don't think firing a 2-2 coach with losses to undefeated whisky and auburn (both on the road) is right. Les Miles was a river boat gambler and they tried to fire him last year and brought him back but damn how do the kids he recruited adjust to a mid season change like this. Feels like this is about the AD keeping his job and not what's best for this team.

That's a reasonable post IMO. IowaHocks wants Iowa to go after him and that's only silly to me if Iowa has a good year. If Barta understood that negotiations are a two-way street he would use the current situation to his advantage. Instead, all KF has to do is scowl at him and he is on his knees. Considering Kirk's compensation package they should fire Barta and name KF athletic director/head coach. Alvarez did it. Plus it would demonstrate integrity, I mean we all know who is the boss between Barta & KF.