No way Penn St is the fourth best team.


The Big Ten and SEC, only two conferences, make up the top 4. Of course there’s no way two Big Ten teams get in.
 
Needed to go to eight at the very beginning.
Still does.

First round....top seeded team gets a home field advantage (yup, play it in a college stadium of the home team for crying out loud)

2nd round (semi's)....rotate among the power-6 bowl game sites.

3rd round (finals)....to the highest bidder.
 
hwk23 said:

The Big Ten and SEC, only two conferences, make up the top 4. Of course there’s no way two Big Ten teams get in.
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The only one possible way requires the same scenario as when Bama didn’t make the SEC championship but still got in alongside Georgia. Ohio State must go 11-1 with a last second loss to Penn State, and Penn State needs to go 13-0. Even then, either Clemson needs to drop a game, or there can only be one SEC team with one or fewer losses, i.e. the second best record in the SEC needs to be 10-2. Chances are decent that both the Pac-12 and Big 12 get left out, which leaves one of the above requirements and Penn State and Ohio State setting themselves up well. The current top four is probably the only composition that sees two Big Ten teams, unless Clemson replaces LSU.
 
Seth53 said:
Needed to go to eight at the very beginning.
Still does.

First round....top seeded team gets a home field advantage (yup, play it in a college stadium of the home team for crying out loud)

2nd round (semi's)....rotate among the power-6 bowl game sites.

3rd round (finals)....to the highest bidder.
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Too easy. We need to spend craploads of money for consultants first.
 
STILLBUSTER said:
Well think of this...If Iowa had any semblance of competent scoring offense - merely a typical Ferentz OL and rushing game - they’d be undefeated and ranked #4. Would u say the same thing?
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I don’t think Iowa would be #4 right now if undefeated, not in front of Clemson. As long as we’re talking hypothetical though, if we didn’t lose 4 guys early to the NFL we probably would be undefeated.
 
BrianFerentzForPresident said:
The only one possible way requires the same scenario as when Bama didn’t make the SEC championship but still got in alongside Georgia. Ohio State must go 11-1 with a last second loss to Penn State, and Penn State needs to go 13-0. Even then, either Clemson needs to drop a game, or there can only be one SEC team with one or fewer losses, i.e. the second best record in the SEC needs to be 10-2. Chances are decent that both the Pac-12 and Big 12 get left out, which leaves one of the above requirements and Penn State and Ohio State setting themselves up well. The current top four is probably the only composition that sees two Big Ten teams, unless Clemson replaces LSU.
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I’m not sure tOSU is allowed to invoke the Alabama rule but if they were, this would be the year. I guess it kinda happened in 2014 but they didn’t take two Big Ten teams, so maybe.
 
It’s why they need to go with Sagarin or some hybrid of the actual formulaic rankings.

Hard to bitch if everyone is plugged into the same math.

But I digresss...
 
Seth53 said:
Needed to go to eight at the very beginning.
Still does.

First round....top seeded team gets a home field advantage (yup, play it in a college stadium of the home team for crying out loud)

2nd round (semi's)....rotate among the power-6 bowl game sites.

3rd round (finals)....to the highest bidder.
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Sounds good. Except for the bowl game sites in the 2nd round. Get rid of that nonsense. The playoffs are so big they don't need goofy sponsor names. Just have cities/stadiums bid on them.
 
I've been a strong advocate for an 8-team playoff from the beginning. It only adds one weekend and solves almost all of the controversies. Mind boggling that it hasn't happened.

As for the rankings, the one thing I would like to hear is how Notre Dame is ranked higher than Iowa. I'm not implying that Iowa is in fact the better team, just noting that by essentially every objective metric you would use to rank teams (record, SOS, scoring differential etc.), Iowa wins out in the comparison.
 
You could look at it as Penn State isn't the fourth best team in the country or that Iowa played the fourth best team toe to toe.
 
#1DieHardHawk said:
I've been a strong advocate for an 8-team playoff from the beginning. It only adds one weekend and solves almost all of the controversies. Mind boggling that it hasn't happened..
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The regular season has been extended in recent years (14 weeks to play 12 games), one has to wonder if they're positioning for this. Just tighten up the regular schedule again and boom...there's your extra week.
 
hawkdrummer1 said:
8 teams. Not too tough and it covers the "we were left out" crowd. A #9 ranked team doesn't really have a case.

Penn St/Ohio St will sort things out in 2 weeks and we'll see how good both Penn St and Minne are this weekend.
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STILLBUSTER said:
Well think of this...If Iowa had any semblance of competent scoring offense - merely a typical Ferentz OL and rushing game - they’d be undefeated and ranked #4. Would u say the same thing?
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No....we are not the fourth best either....even if we were unbeaten.
 
Georgia at #6 is crazy...they already lost to a very average S.Carolina team. Notre Dame lost to Michigan by 31 pts at the same venue Iowa lost to Michigan by 7 pts and Iowa has a better win...why so much love for the Irish? Utah ain't all that...how is losing to USC considered a better loss than Okie losing to a ranked, 6-2 Kansas St. team? Truly, some of these rankings make literally no sense.
 
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