No more rose bowl, no more fun of any kind
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MoseSchrute
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I really don't see how you can pay players and not have the whole thing come crashing down.
These statements by Emmert and Company sound like they are circling the wagons.
The NCAA knows it is under attack, and rightfully so.
Administrators and the like are scared, they know they are in the wrong here, and are fighting a losing battle. They can only hope to extract as much as they can before they are ridden out of town on a rail.
Players should be paid. The NCAA is a relic of a model from before the times of television contracts. College sports were truly non-profit, until just recently. Now there is a pie of profits, and it needs to be divided fairly.
The NCAA knows it is under attack, and rightfully so.
Administrators and the like are scared, they know they are in the wrong here, and are fighting a losing battle. They can only hope to extract as much as they can before they are ridden out of town on a rail.
Players should be paid. The NCAA is a relic of a model from before the times of television contracts. College sports were truly non-profit, until just recently. Now there is a pie of profits, and it needs to be divided fairly.
GoHawks24
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Players already get paid. It's called a scholarship. They also have more opportunities than non-athletes in the way of exposure. I would love not being $30k in debt and you can bet your *** that I'd be at a huge advantage if that were the case. I'd be buying a house, new car, starting a family already, but nope, I had to mortgage my early adulthood away for student loans with ridiculous interest rates.
Am I butt hurt? Definitely. I can't imagine what even worse shape my body would be in had I played college athletics though, so I've got that advantage going for me compared to college athletes. Still, I rather would've had my tuition paid for I think.
Should athletes get more benefits or compensation? Probably, but to say that they're not compensated or paid is not true.
deanvogs
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Players are paid already. Last I checked tuition, room and board are the payments for playing sports for the university. Not only that, the players have the opportunity to take the universities assets (Stadium, training facilities, coaching staffs, fan base, and recognizable brand) and turn those into millions of dollars. The very least a college player receives from the university is a free education. The very most they can receive is the training, and platform to then take the skill they have learned into the market place (NFL) and make millions and millions of dollars.
deanvogs
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Great post. If people are saying the should receive more, that is one thing....but to claim they are not paid is just factually incorrect.
Not for profit doesn't mean you can't turn a profit. It means you don't keep the profit. Frankly, a lot of those profits are going back to the athlete.
Where do you think the money for those strength training centers, professional style locker rooms, athlete dedicated academic buildings, and charter travel comes from? Yeah, the athletes are not explicitly paid, but they are certainly not wanting for world-class accommodations.
theboat
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I just joined a gym for $200/ month and I don't get close to what they get. A real person getting the accommodations, training, etc would easily go for 1000/month.
No one doubts that college players get paid in the form of a scholarship. The simple fact is that they should be able to negotiate a better deal. Who ever said a scholarship is a fair price for banging their heads in 20 hours a week for 5 years? If they do not like it they do not have to play.
The question is who is watching the watchers? THERE IS NO OVERSIGHT to ensure that this level of compensation is a fair deal. When coaches AD's administrators, and NCAA presidents make 2 million $ ++ whereas college players get only a scholarship, it is indicative of the fact that those people decided the way in which to slice the pie. All the players want is a seat at the table, yes they should get that seat and yes their slice of the pie seems to be too small.
There are profits being made, and they are being used inefficiently or without input from the people who fairly earned them. If there were no excess money then there would be nothing to fight over. The scholarship is not enough "payment", players need to be paid more, it is only fair, and fairness is what the NCAA professes to stand for.
The question is who is watching the watchers? THERE IS NO OVERSIGHT to ensure that this level of compensation is a fair deal. When coaches AD's administrators, and NCAA presidents make 2 million $ ++ whereas college players get only a scholarship, it is indicative of the fact that those people decided the way in which to slice the pie. All the players want is a seat at the table, yes they should get that seat and yes their slice of the pie seems to be too small.
There are profits being made, and they are being used inefficiently or without input from the people who fairly earned them. If there were no excess money then there would be nothing to fight over. The scholarship is not enough "payment", players need to be paid more, it is only fair, and fairness is what the NCAA professes to stand for.
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theboat
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This word "fair" is going to destroy everyhting because "fair" is and always will be subjective. Every student loan payment I make thinks they have it pretty "fair" already. The NCAA makes stars out of students, they dont enslave already established stars. It is like an internship for the job you really want, but nobody forces it on them.
Who decided on the fact that a scholarship was the right thing to do for the student-players?
Times must and always do change. Scholarships used to be more than fair. There is no way that it is enough in light of the fact that the size of the pie has grown.
AZHAWKFAN1
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If the players get paid, then they are no longer amatures. They then should have to pay for their scolly, room and board, use of facilities, training etc.
MoseSchrute
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The field is slanted at all levels of everything in life, look at the rich versus poor high schools. Your argument is a straw man.
NCHawker
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If in fact there is a compensation mandate, it will not be the players who decide what is fair. The universities will not decide, nor will the NCAA decide. Title IX will decide what is fair.
It will be out of their hands in in the hands of the US Govt.
All athletes or none gentlemen.
It will be out of their hands in in the hands of the US Govt.
All athletes or none gentlemen.
SonofaSailor
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As someone who has student debts/and had to pay my way through...I think they have it more than fair. If they do pay them, I will quickly lose interest in college athletics...I already have professional teams to support/follow.
If they end up paying them, they should pay for school...training...board...books...etc.
If they end up paying them, they should pay for school...training...board...books...etc.
